Members weztone Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 Hi,I have encountered a problem buying PA gear from an individual and am wondering what paths I might take to either get my money back or get the equipment. I sent a money order for around $1000 to an individual in Nova Scotia for a Mixwizard, Case and crossover and now the seller refuses to acknowlege my emails. I believe I have been scammed. The items were listed on Ebay however, no bids were offered and the auction ended. I then emailed him and we made a deal for the equipment and I promptly sent him the money in the form of a money order. I would like to hear from some of you as to what recourse I should take as it is outside the US and my options may be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fossil Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 Try to stop payment on the money order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 Originally posted by weztone Hi,I have encountered a problem buying PA gear from an individual and am wondering what paths I might take to either get my money back or get the equipment.I sent a money order for around $1000 to an individual in Nova Scotia for a Mixwizard, Case and crossover and now the seller refuses to acknowlege my emails. I believe I have been scammed.The items were listed on Ebay however, no bids were offered and the auction ended. I then emailed him and we made a deal for the equipment and I promptly sent him the money in the form of a money order.I would like to hear from some of you as to what recourse I should take as it is outside the US and my options may be limited. Your options would be limited if you lived in the US. Keep all your e-mails. Contact the Attorney Generals office in the state that you sent the money to (I have had luck getting money for microphones I've bought in the US which I never received). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 Money orders are tough to stop payment on, if even possible. This is a good example of how services like pay-pal and using a credit card can give you recourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 25, 2003 CMS Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 I'm sorry if this comes across as harsh, but what were you thinking? Money orders are as good as cash. Paying upfront to an unknown address is just asking for this sort of thing. It would likely cost a good portion of, if not more than, $1,000 to attempt legal recourse (and don't think they didn't know this) of an international issue (assuming you're in the US). If this was in the US, I'd have a word with my local Postmaster....the US Postal Service prosecutes cases of mail fraud, which this clearly is. But they can't do anything about a foreign address. You may want to contact a Canadian Postal authority to see if they handle these things. Ebay sucks because People Suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 How was the seller's feedback? Does he/she currently have anything for sale on Ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fossil Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 Originally posted by agedhorse Money orders are tough to stop payment on, if even possible. Question: Can a stop payment request be placed on a money order? Answer: It depends on the type of money order. There are different kinds of items that banks sell that are described as "money orders." If the money order is really just a machine-impressed check drawn on the account of the purchaser/drawer of the money order, then the right of stop payment would apply just as it would to any other check "drawn on the customer's account." (See UCC section 4-403) If the money order is really a "teller check" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 25, 2003 CMS Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Originally posted by fossil Question: Can a stop payment request be placed on a money order? Answer: It depends on the type of money order. There are different kinds of items that banks sell that are described as "money orders." If the money order is really just a machine-impressed check drawn on the account of the purchaser/drawer of the money order, then the right of stop payment would apply just as it would to any other check "drawn on the customer's account." (See UCC section 4-403) If the money order is really a "teller check" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumtech Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 I have never purchased anything from E-Bay and this is just another example of why not to do business with complete strangers. I've heard several horror stories about E-Bay and read about several scams in the media. As for your case, you really do have very few resources. If you have a real name, address, invoice, etc., I suppose you can contact the local police or attorney generals office and give it a shot. You never, know there me a stack of complaints against this guy... Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melancholy mechanic Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 you have his mailing address... buy a plane ticket and a baseball bat just kidding. sorry to hear about your misfortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thunderpaw Posted July 25, 2003 Members Share Posted July 25, 2003 I have had extremely good luck with ebay purchases. Everything was as described. Transactions were clean. I have tried to contact the individuals beforehand to possibly 'feel them out', but it hasn't been any problem whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moody Posted July 26, 2003 Members Share Posted July 26, 2003 The problem is that they have done the deal 'outside' of ebay. There is no recourse through ebay. As I said, contact the attourney generals office and keep all your e-mails - it's worked for me once before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted July 26, 2003 Members Share Posted July 26, 2003 Originally posted by Craigv Additionally, US Postal Money Orders can not be stopped. However, many money orders can be traced, if you've kept the number -- which most people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J the D Posted July 26, 2003 Members Share Posted July 26, 2003 Originally posted by melancholy mechanic you have his mailing address... buy a plane ticket and a baseball bat just kidding. sorry to hear about your misfortune For $1,000 I would not be kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Tune Posted July 26, 2003 Members Share Posted July 26, 2003 Do you actually have a mailing address? If it's not a closed PO BOX, I'd get the law involved and see if they can help. If it's not classified as Mail Fraud, it's definitely theft (in any country). I feel bad for you. I hope that it all works out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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