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  • I saw the videos- it was pretty clear to me what was meant by the usb comments- it was obvious when he mentioned connecting drum controllers he was talking about ALL the ports and general connectivity in a laundry list fashion- 'sevice bus' is just a flub- no reason to read anything into it or keep poking at it- makes you look much less intelligent for doing so it seems to me to be nitpicking about loose speech-

    you know there will be plenty of people breaking this thing down when it ships- we will all know exactly what is what so there is no reason to keep the rather culturaly devisive attack on the silly marketing from a NAMM show-

    I will be more than happy if it just has a basic usb audio interface-

    I just hope this thing isn't going to cost me toooooo much- I will definetly be checking out the software




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    • Windows knows how to handle USB-compliant MIDI devices as-is. (I don't know about Mac.) There is no need for a special device driver UNLESS the device manufacturer includes additional features not covered by the USB MIDI interface standard.

      If I created a custom USB-MIDI devices of my own and strictly adhered to the USB-MIDI interface standard, I wouldn't need to provide a driver.
      Hurrr. Derp, derp, derp.

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      • I also presume the USB spec assumes the computer is non-removable, though I haven't read it. (The Bluetooth spec I have read, which is another story).

        Basically you'd have to have one pretend to be the computer and lie. Could be done, not worth it.


        Actually digital instruments are computers, albeit computers built for a very specific application. There's no reason you couldn't write drivers for class-compliant devices in the OS of something that isn't OSX or Windows, that's one of the benefits of a class-compliant device.

        When you say 'not worth it', have you really thought about that? Being the first hardware sampler/sequencer to be able to use any class compliant USB midi controller would be a pretty big selling point.

        Bear in mind I'm not sticking up for the Beat Kangs, I think their behaviour so far has been to say the least. I do like to keep an open mind about instruments though, although I'd think long and hard before giving these morons my money.

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        • blah blah blah internet blah


          hey look that's cool and the gang if you want to come into this forum and piss all over it, that's what most of us do anyway.

          however if you _DO_ come over here, at least be a man and step up right proper, instead of spouting a bunch of bull**************** technobabble we all know is false, and calling us "haters" (whatever the **************** that means.)
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          • You win, I will not buy a Beat Thang.

            It's amazing how you pursue disrespect on purpose. You're in business now, good luck with that approach.
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            • Well I'm not going to flame you.

              Given the choice between the following options:
              (1) He's describing an innovative new feature that nobody else has.
              (2) He's bull****************ting because he doesn't really know what he's talkin' about.

              I'm more inclined to pick box number 2. When you've got a midi in port, why go to much effort to make a USB-midi in anyways? Much of the time the USB-midi port serves to get rid of the midi in/out/thru ports, particularly on the consumer keyboards.

              I'm waiting for the cracked software version. That'll do, pig, that'll do.

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              • sorry about that xmlguy i could've sworn i typed serial aparently not though.

                What i was trying to say was that midi cables could only send so much info while usb could send tons more at least thats what i have been told please correct me if im wrong.

                I use modular gear so i use contral voltages signals.

                and im not a troll just some one who wanted to thank you guys for a awesome thread

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                • im ... just some one who wanted to thank you guys for a awesome thread


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                  • Doesn't neccessarily mean you can plug a USB MIDI keyboard into a USB MIDI drum machine and have it work, because AFAIK these are end point devices and you can't take the central hub (computer) out of the mix. (Could be wrong here, though I've never seen it done). I also presume the USB spec assumes the computer is non-removable, though I haven't read it. (The Bluetooth spec I have read, which is another story).


                    The USB specification assumes that you have a host connected to many peripherals. For the Beat Kangz device to work such that you can connect a USB device directly to it, it would have to act directly as a USB host.

                    This would mean having *both* a flattened USB-A socket as well as presumably your standard USB-B socket for receiving data from a computer. So even in the prototype, if we don't see some sort of similar arrangement to this, then we're talking bull****************. (Granted I've had devices which can act as both host and client -- the Sharp Zaurus PDA used the USB OTG connection type, which accepts mini-B type cables normally, but could accept a mini-A with an adapter. I seriously doubt this device will get that technical.)

                    It's definitely *possible* for devices to have this sort of functionality -- as pointed out, USB-MIDI devices *are* standard speced. However, this puts some additional burden on the OS -- not all USB-MIDI devices have just one in and one out after all, so the OS will have to have some routing logic built into it.

                    It would be potentially interesting if someone pulled this off, but it would take more than marketing bling to convince me that it's being done right.
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                    • For the Beat Kangz device to work such that you can connect a USB device directly to it, it would have to act directly as a USB host.


                      when i think about the viability of this thing acting as a USB host for a mass storage device, it makes me giggle.


                      when i think about the viability of this thing acting as a USB host for something like a drum kit or MIDI interface, it makes me LOL. (and i never use that word as a verb, so you know i'm placatin' something serious.)
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                      • +1

                        I was ready to give it a fair shake. Heck, I'm considering a second Machinedrum. But there has been zero indication anywhere that this is coming from a legitimate company with real backing.

                        You'd think that someone with the "Kangs" would roll in here and get the real info in the hands of real customers LIKE US. Would anyone like to hazard a guess at the monthly KSS group outlay for gear? I'll be we do $50k+ easily between us.


                        late but

                        kangs do 50k pcm on hoes

                        This would mean having *both* a flattened USB-A socket as well as presumably your standard USB-B socket for receiving data from a computer.

                        my iriver multi codec juke box does

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                        • If you watch the last video i posted, there actually are "too" and "from" USB ports on it.
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                          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evo8tIZ0zBE

                            i haven't chimed in on this discussion yet, just because i have nothing really to say...

                            but now i do.

                            I.
                            CANT.
                            STOP.
                            WATCHING.
                            THIS.
                            VIDEO.


                            seriously, look at this video. the effects make me so happy, and when the voice over says "BEAT KANGZ" its a guarunteed pee-your-pants moment.


                            i just want to know if it has a dedicated 1/16th -> 1/32nd high hat button. if it doesn't, it's not from the souf.
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                            • OK, so they do have a USB type A and B on the proto. Interesting.

                              Apart from that, I thought that was an excellent promo for the new Beat Kangz WWE wrestling team.
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                              Boney Fiend: the band, man / punk / garage / beer

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                              • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evo8tIZ0zBE

                                i haven't chimed in on this discussion yet, just because i have nothing really to say...

                                but now i do.

                                I.
                                CANT.
                                STOP.
                                WATCHING.
                                THIS.
                                VIDEO.


                                seriously, look at this video. the effects make me so happy, and when the voice over says "BEAT KANGZ" its a guarunteed pee-your-pants moment.


                                i just want to know if it has a dedicated 1/16th -> 1/32nd high hat button. if it doesn't, it's not from the souf.


                                when you're right, you're right ...

                                Salame ...

                                So why is all their music so far so dull and uninspiring ... ???

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