I shust Heard mp3 of kursweil 2661 demos Is there any contest ?? well the price

there is talk about korg ,yammi ,roland .. and wish one is better ....

Kursweil 2661. kicks .. all 3 ! that things is incredible ... Why inst the KIngs of the keys around here...??

*starts fund for Chick's BADLY needed eye operation*

It is a fantastic sounding kybd but I found that I had to get so deep into the menus that it became frustrating and time consuming.

becuase there is a lot of talk of the other brands and becuase of that i really didnt pay much attention to kursweil 2661.. ..

that things is the best keyboard i heard from the big names .

and the piano is shust the best .. ftp://ftp.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/pub/Kurzweil/Audio_Demos/MP3/K2600/GRANDILU.mp3

sounds like a Motif piano to me ...

i heard the new korg m3 , the roland fantom x and ya,,y motif xs something ..

and this is easy the more natural sounding finally i key ai really like

btw i cant find the delet option to delete the same thread.

does the k2661 sound exacly like the 2600 because id it does i think i will look for one..

I'm really happy for you.

I like Kurzweil.

Are your eyes and spelling getting worse?

my eyes ..... really ..

The K2661 is just the K2600 technology repackaged. If you want those exact sounds I suggest a used K2600R hooked up to a decent controller.

Other than the effects processor and a lame clonewheel algorithm the K2600 was just the K2500 with a new paint job, and the K2500 was just two K2000 boards sottered together. If you have decent outboard effects the best value by far on ebay is the used K2500s, which are dirt cheap. if you buy one make sure it has the Orchestra and Contemporary ROM boards, which include the very useable 4 MEG stereo piano. Most of the best programs for these synths use some of those waveforms, and you don't want to be stuck with trying to buy those boards separately.

My guess is that someone at Kurzweil designed an amazing synth in 1990 with the K2000 and then must have moved on to better things. Ever since then Kurzweil has been recycling and repackaging those same designs (and waveforms). The design of the K2000 was so forward thinking that its decendants are still useable sample/synth hybrids, but don't forget that you've got far less polyphony than anything else comparable on the market, 48 voices which usually means 12 since the best programs are at least two stereo keymaps layered. Even those 12 voices will probably respond sluggishly, because the processor can really only handle 24 voices simultaneously. Kuzweil's promotional literature loves to tout the 96 "digital oscillators" available in some algorithms, but they don't mention that these things alias so badly that they're essentially useless more than an octave above middle C. You might find that it's more fun to make demos with this thing than to actually play music on it.

really ..... very limited poliphony?????? .... will the pc3 will sound the exacly the same????

will the pc3 solve that problem????

SOME CONFUSION HEAR

HOW CAN YOU REED THE CURSEWEIL 2661 LCD SCREEN WITH YOUR EYE

PROBLEM ?

My understanding is that the PC3 will have 128 voices of polyphony. Unfortunately the PC3 is not going to be able to access user samples, unless Kurzweil comes to their senses before releasing it.

The only thing that makes the K2 series of any value after all these years is the fact that you can put your own samples in there. With all the other incredible options now available I see little point in another closed rompler. I think Kurzweil is about 10 years too late with the PC3.

By the time they finally release it, they may be 12-15 years too late.

Funny, but I think that the k2600 sounds awfully good, and I think that the synthesis available is quite deep and rather intuitive. I think that scsi is a pain in the ass, but if they come up with an updated version that communicates via firewire or usb, I'm in. Personally, I think that it's a far more serious piece of gear than the yamaha/roland/korg consumer crap.

Chick is not a real person.

none of us are.

Forget the Kurz chick and go for the Fantom XR

The 26xx series has 48 note polyphony. Each of those 48 notes can have up to 3 extra dsp oscillators included, so if you max out all 48 notes, you'll be sounding 192 oscillators. I've never found the polyphony to be a problem.

Those oscillators are mostly marketing bullsh*t.

They alias like crazy above C5, which I and others have been telling Kurzweil about since 1992. Yes, you can use them to get some nice warm pad sounds in the lower octaves, but I consider it highly deceptive to describe a sampling instrument as having "192 oscillators", when what it actually has is 24 stereo voices (that it isn't powerful enough to sound simultaneously) and the ability to layer on some extra simple detuned waveforms in the lower register.

If you are just playing one channel at a time or doing splits live 24 stereo voices is plenty. Yes, the Kurzweils can make some nice sounds, and I think the $700 used K2500Rs on ebay are a great value, especially if the ROM boards are included. I highly recommend them.

On the other hand, if you would like to do sequences using more than 3 channels the Kurzweil K2 series' polyphony and response time are totally inadequate and pitiful compared to what Roland, Yamaha and Korg are currently offering.

Flashy mp3 demos are great, but it is worth trying to understand what an instrument can and cannot do.

If it sounds good, use it.

I like the Kurzweils. If some other keyboardists don't, it's of no consequence to me. It actually helps me to sound different from the Big 3 users, which is a definite plus.

The last thing I want is me using the same keyboards as everyone else. I use no sounds from Yamaha, Korg, or Roland. A keyboardist will never survive if they are counting on support from other keyboardists. The crowd outnumbers keyboardists by at least 10,000:1.