Members BigMac5 Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Not being a drummer, I wonder if a four piece kit is enough for a general rock cover band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Depending on the rock and the drummer, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CraKaJaX Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Rush? Probably not. Chili Peppers? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 +1^ Depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiAz4Free Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 12" or 13" rack tom, plus 16" floor tom = whateveryouneed P.S. how do you make the little up arrow thingymajig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 P.S. how do you make the little up arrow thingymajig?shift 6 on your keyboard. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiAz4Free Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 shift 6 on your keyboard. ^ what a fukin retard I am... I can no longer call myself an IT guy. Was staring RIGHT at me, but I just couldn't figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 It depends what you play, a 4 piece can do many, many things, you could do Led on a 4, and a lot of really great music. You really are only excluding rush and all that {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 You can play what you want with whatever you want. Don't need to note for note things, play it your way, I can't stand carbon copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArtVandelay Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 My band covers Rush's Subdivisions and I do it on a 5 piece kit but don't even use the third tom in it so you can absolutely get away with a 4 piece kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 You can play what you want with whatever you want. Don't need to note for note things, play it your way, I can't stand carbon copies.But what if we did want to do it note for note, for the most part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted August 20, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2008 It depends what you play, a 4 piece can do many, many things, you could do Led on a 4, and a lot of really great music. You really are only excluding rush and all that {censored}. I actually rather enjoy trying to adapt three-tom parts to a two-tom kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 4'll work in almost any situation , it's all in the hands of the person playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I actually rather enjoy trying to adapt three-tom parts to a two-tom kit. Me too, I don't think I said anything against it... I only play 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cheeseadiddle Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 The only time a four piece will look out of place is if you are doing prog wankery in the fashion of Dream Theatre or Rush. It works well for everything else. If you are playing prog wankery... You'll want this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 But uncle cheese, I am good at drums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I guess if you want to you can play all the same hits just using different drums right? Stay a little longer on the rack before moving down, sub some guys for a kick or two. But what if we did want to do it note for note, for the most part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I better stay out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I guess if you want to you can play all the same hits just using different drums right? makes sence:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I better stay out of this one. Nah, join in the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSimms Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 But what if we did want to do it note for note, for the most part? Then obviously you have to have the same choice in tones as the original has--that is, if a particular fill uses seven toms, then you need seven toms to replicate it. I think that this approach--the purist approach--is a little asinine personally--no offense. The same fill that used seven toms could be played on three and probably 1% (if even that much) of the audience would know the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big Daddy Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 IMO 4 piece makes you become more creative on your fills. It took some getting used to when I made the switch,but now it feels strange playing mine when set up as a 6 piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Then obviously you have to have the same choice in tones as the original has--that is, if a particular fill uses seven toms, then you need seven toms to replicate it. I think that this approach--the purist approach--is a little asinine personally--no offense. The same fill that used seven toms could be played on three and probably 1% (if even that much) of the audience would know the difference.Well I said for the most part, within reason. I get your point thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Nah, join in the fun. Alright, alright. I've said many times that I believe instrumentation is very strictly a matter of application. Of course, even though every gay band in the universe has a 4-piece on the riser, you can get away with that in many situations. If it's an originals band, play anything you like...bang on pizza boxes, or what ever. If it's a cover band, playing a mix of covers...even if there are a few big-kit prog pieces in there...by all means, you should only set up as much equipment as you want. BUT, if you want authenticity and all or most of what you're playing is prog cover music, written for the big kit, then you should make some effort to equip yourself accordingly. If it's a tribute band, your instrumentation should be as faithful to the original as possible, IMO. It does also depend on your audience. Someone commented that a large %age of the audience "won't know the difference." Sadly, this is often true. Not long ago, I saw a Queen tribute band that is known worldwide, and admittedly, overall they were stupendous. However, the drummer's instrumentation was nothing like Roger Taylor's and for me, as a fan of Roger Taylor, that took away from the musical effect, and did a disservice to the compositions as written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 But what if we did want to do it note for note, for the most part? well then, you'll need to replicate the kit of each drummer whose material you're covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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