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Added the screwdriver.

MuRF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Picture's in sig. The colors are a little off. You have a $1500 camera and it can't calibrate colors properly. Go figure. Anyways. Yeah, it's in the club.

MXR 10 band EQ, just don't need a second one, comes with box, papers, AC adapter $100 Shipped Did you really buy two? Hm.

MuRF. Pic to come.

Kinda late on opening the new spam thread? Aren't we Philip? Nah, it should start tomorrow.

need is a strong word I DIDN'T STUTTER DID I

Guys. Need a moog delay.

Sig plz.

You're making this hard, but with a zendrive and a DRRI I'm crunched for cash. *pout* Come on baby, you know you want one.

Price drop on the Diamond Compressor. MuRF's still for sale. I'm looking for a Moog analog delay too.

sig, will provide pics on request. For the MuRF, open to trades for a Moog analog delay.

uhggggg

Woo! Price lowered on MuRF! Startin' late tonight, Phil!

Sig, and Belt I'm gonna send an PM your way. I saw a DM-2 here in japan for like $265. Hm.

AGH damnit, you should've replaced "Zero" with "Pink Flesh"

Sig man, sig. (sorry for the time factor thing, by the way)

*sigh* You should somehow be obligated to sell that to me for $100 now. :cry: Well if you really want it

Yeah, I'm kidding. Just trying to avoid homework. lulz.

URGENT: POSTING THINGS LIKE: "EVENTIDE TIMEFACTOR $100, FIRST PERSON WHO PMS ME GETS IT" IN THE SPAM THREAD IS A MISUSE OF THE SPAM THREAD. Not funny dood - and this isn't the place to joke around like that. Please refrain from fake posts like this in the future. Thanks. (Edited by Phil)

OKAY SSOOSOSOSOSOSOOOSOSOOSOO Amazon.com e-gift certificate for $40 - $27 Looking for: Analogman Mini Bi-Comp Skreddy Pink Flesh (will trade NYC Big Muff Pi + Cash) 2 DL4s (gonna start buying these in a few days)

Having a greater selection of music to choose from does give you more influences... Dude, it takes a lot to get a band to be heralded as the next best thing. And plus, that is a rather {censored}ty sweeping generalization to loop all the "hipster bands" into, imo. Anyways, the indie genre really came out of the DIY mentality. They didn't want to sign to a big name label, they wanted to keep making music even if that meant not having a jet. Most of these bands arise out of guys just getting together and making music in an apartment, that's how my bands came together. They don't have stars in their eyes. They work from the ground up, but never really aspire to be more than local heroes. It seems to me that the people who want to be big time rockers are the guys who set out to do so. I mean, sure, these guys need to make money. They have to market, that's part of their job. So does greater selection mean better quality? I say no. The education thing is an apples/oranges argument, so I won't argue it. Basically, I say yes. There's a {censored}ing hell of a lot more going on, and that hell of a lot more music is becoming a hell of a lot more accessible to people like you and i vis a vis the internet. The internet is the most powerful marketing tool the capitalized world has ever seen, ESPECIALLY with music. If it weren't for the internet, no dice I would've discovered like 75% of my musical collection. But instead, I have a really big musical library and it's seriously changed my life for the better. But that's not to say it's all good. It's pick and choose really. It just boils down to subjectivity, that's all. That's all. But like we said in the Boss pedals thread, there's some good, some great, some bad, some absolute {censored}. So this, in my view, is a moot point. The point I'm trying to make is that the mainstream/left of centre music in the mid 90s was a hell of a lot more progressive and diverse than the same equivalent now. I don't know about that dude. You could make the argument that music is becoming more and more influenced by dance music or electronica, but there is still a lot going on. A lot. Like the neo-folk thing. Music today is constantly expanding in all directions at an ever increasing rate. I'm not going to debate those this band that band points as there's no way that I can convince you of them. Subjectivity, subjectivity, subjectivity, subjectivity, subjectivity. The rise of technology and the ease with which one can create a track means you don't need a great understanding of music to produce some fairly sophisticated sounding stuff... That musical/production prowess will always be the deciding factor between mediocre, good, great, and amazing music. After all, if it sounds good to YOUR ears, what does it matter? What do you mean by the "retraction" of the dance scene?

1. It's not music, it's cleaverly disguised white noise manned by annoying fanboi's who have no idea on what basis to critisize music except what pitchfork tells them to listen to. Cause pitchfork is God. 2. "indie" and "hipster" genre's are the least original thing I have ever been forced to listen to, or experimented with, every band sounds almost identical at points. At least in metal theres 10000 sub genre's, at elast jazz has different eras, indie's just not original enough to have anything more than clean, slgithly out of tune guitars doing a lot of slides and boring whiny vocals. 3. The real music community are people that can accurately judge music for what it's worth, and are msuicians. I have yet to meet anyone i consider part of this community that doesn't frind hipster/indie music a complete waste of time musically. This applies equally from people I play in Orchestras with to guitar teachers, to the guy that runs the Bass store. 4. I don't mind them being different, when you have to put up with legions of society touting Radiohead as gods and people e-felating Sufjan Stevens with their own pathetic attempts at looking smart on the internet I'm going to call a spade a spade. Man up, delete that idea {censored} from your computer, break all those CD's, and get some real music (which is effectively any other genre other than hipster or indie)! 5. This thing called Neo'Folk is also not a genre, the only neo-folk worth listening to would be folk metal. Jonanna Newsom should give up music. Debating with complete idiots is much harder than debating with graduate students.

Yeah, see, that's the problem with YOU though. You're the one who's getting all butthurt over someone saying that they disagree with an opinion. In my case, I just say that it flat out sucks. Does that mean I'm right? {censored} no. You can call me a dumbass and we'll have an argument. It'll consist of condescending remarks and tons of copping out. If you came into a thread about Nirvana and said they blew nuts and Nevermind was an incredibly overrated album I wouldn't get all pissy, I'd call you a retard and continue to pick apart your own musical taste to prove to myself as to why your opinion doesn't matter. That's musical elitism 101. The old Nirvana forum I used to go to was the biggest hive of musical elitists on the face of the Earth, believe it or not. It doesn't sound plausible but the elitists don't talk about Nirvana, they talk about how Steve Reich and John Cage are awesome and how they wish Slint would come to North America or, if they wandered into the Nirvana portion of the site, they'd tell all the Nirvana noobs and kurdt-kids how they'll hate Nirvana in a year and realize how retarded they were. It only happens to about 5% of them. I don't know whether or not it was a good thing that it happened to me. I don't go there anymore. That place sucks. A member on here goes there I think. Poppin' Fresh is his name on there and it's in the user's sig on here. I dunno the user though. I was pointing out that because you think it inconceivable to give his album an F, that the whole website is inherently flawed/retarded. That's the impression I got. If you're saying something else, I apologize. Dude, he wasn't disagreeing with an opinion. Disagreeing and condescending are, again, different things. Fact is, I nor you need to defend our musical tastes, but I'm sick of people {censored}ting on other people for what kind of music they listen to, and not the music itself. Again, subjectivity.

ooohhh a thread about music elitists. nice. I used to be totally into arguing that kinda {censored} but then I got bored with huge ass posts. Bottom line is that Pitchfork kinda blows nuts. Kinda became what it started out to go against. I never read one good Pitchfork review. They gave John Frusciante's "Smile from the streets you hold" an F. HA@!! DIFFERING OPINIONS GASP