Members GAS Man Posted April 17, 2009 Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 I already posted about my new Furbird, but forgot to mention. When I talked with Gibson today about my concern about the bridge pickup seeming pretty weak compared to the neck - - I also said, "and there was no truss rod wrench in the case". Well, the kind gentlemen explained that they are no longer shipping truss rod wrenches with their guitars because they were getting loose in the case during shipping and causing damage to the guitar finishes. Just wanted you to know that Gibson is looking out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted April 17, 2009 Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 Nice to know they care. Like a piece of friggin tape couldn't have fixed that problem. Why bother to make up a lie? Just say "Our profit margins can be boosted by .01 percent by omitting that expense" and be done with it. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted April 17, 2009 Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted April 17, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 Nice to know they care. Like a piece of friggin tape couldn't have fixed that problem. Why bother to make up a lie? Just say "Our profit margins can be boosted by .01 percent by omitting that expense" and be done with it. EG Xactly - I guess with all the bubbles bursting in the economy these days, a 6"x6" square of bubble wrap plus your tape, and stuff it into the cubby, would also be too much of a risk.Funny, I actually thought before I brought up the issue that they'd offer to ship me one. What have I been smokin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BAXANDALL Posted April 17, 2009 Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just say ok, please send it out to this address now. I'll fax or email you a scan of my purchase receipt. J/K That's pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WildWill Posted April 17, 2009 Members Share Posted April 17, 2009 I already posted about my new Furbird, but forgot to mention. When I talked with Gibson today about my concern about the bridge pickup seeming pretty weak compared to the neck - - I also said, "and there was no truss rod wrench in the case". Well, the kind gentlemen explained that they are no longer shipping truss rod wrenches with their guitars because they were getting loose in the case during shipping and causing damage to the guitar finishes. Just wanted you to know that Gibson is looking out for you. Now now now. You know Gibsons sell new for over $600. A $600+ guitar should never, and I mean NEVER, need a truss rod adjustment. No matter the climate where it was built and then eventually shipped to. Just ask that fellow in London that bought a guitar from the States. A few members here agreed with him, too, so it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr Wanker Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Many guitar stores remove them anyway so you don't screw up the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Interesting. My wrench came in a thick bubble wrap bag (taped) that was in the larger (sealed) plastic bag containing the care guide and such, which was located in the case pocket. Hard to believe many would escape that kind of packaging/location and mess up the finish. IDK..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Interesting. My wrench came in a thick bubble wrap bag (taped) that was in the larger (sealed) plastic bag containing the care guide and such, which was located in the case pocket. Hard to believe many would escape that kind of packaging/location and mess up the finish. IDK..... Ditto. It seems impossible for this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChrisGansz Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Maybe you can sue them for not sending you a truss rod wrench with your guitar - ask guitarmike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tone Deaf Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Good god, are we really bitching about this? You can get a whole set of allen wrenches for around 5 bucks at Lowes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 That's a pure business decision. Something that costs about $0.50 can now be sold for $9.99 since they aren't providing it with the guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rydia is hot Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 if you're lucky, you might find out floating around in the tone chambers of your les paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChrisGansz Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Good god, are we really bitching about this? You can get a whole set of allen wrenches for around 5 bucks at Lowes.You're right - but you would need a socket wrench of some sort because allen keys won't work on a Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members itieu Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Must be a new policy this year. My new 335 arrived in Dec and it had one in the bag with the booklets etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Must be a new policy this year. My new 335 arrived in Dec and it had one in the bag with the booklets etc. I guess so, I got a 08 Standard in December and it had the wrench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Good god, are we really bitching about this? You can get a whole set of allen wrenches for around 5 bucks at Lowes. :cop:Hey man it's a really cool little tool! It's a "staple" wrench/driver in my box. But at any rate no biggy. I just thought their reasoning behind not including it was a bit B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted April 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Now now now. You know Gibsons sell new for over $600. A $600+ guitar should never, and I mean NEVER, need a truss rod adjustment. No matter the climate where it was built and then eventually shipped to. Just ask that fellow in London that bought a guitar from the States. A few members here agreed with him, too, so it must be true. Yeah, I find the Gibson I've bought are more likely to need a setup than an Epiphone out of the box. On this furbird that I just received, there's a significant amount of fret buzz. With just a quick finger tip check, top and bottom of the fretboard, it appears the relief is pretty much completely flat, so the truss rod needs to be loosened a hair. That's a little unusual (I'm more used to them needing a tightening). So I was looking for that little bugger in the case. Even though I have others kicking around in cases, I think I ought to buy myself some deluxe Pro model from Stew Mac. Think how grand life would be with a truss rod wrench that you can set and leave on the rod until you've got the adjustment correct, instead of all those little annoying "set - quarter turn, set - quarter turn" motions. Heck, I think I'll even get a holster for it. "Fastest Truss Rod Adjuster In The West" Thank you Gibson, you've inspired me to great "things". You'd think it'd have a bit of a T-handle, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catalinagooseV2 Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Many guitar stores remove them anyway so you don't screw up the neck.Thats probably a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members itieu Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 I think I'll even get a holster for it. You may have hit onto a untapped market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 9-Pin-Phoenix Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 I am surprised that they did suggest "If you need to adjust your Truss Rod or Setup, please take your guitar to an authorized Gibson repair shop. According to our database, the closest is...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted April 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Interesting. My wrench came in a thick bubble wrap bag (taped) that was in the larger (sealed) plastic bag containing the care guide and such, which was located in the case pocket. Hard to believe many would escape that kind of packaging/location and mess up the finish. IDK.....I noticed the "set up tag" :lol: (oh God, let me recompose myself)says March '09. So this is a pretty dang "factory fresh Gibson". So I guess they just started doing this.Really, it ain't no biggy for me. But as was stated above, it's more the irony of the matter that is worth posting.On the other hand, just think if it were your first Gibson. It'd sure be nice to have the tools so you didn't have to start your ownership with a puzzle to solve. Maybe they are indeed hoping you'll take it to a tech and possibly reduce their warranty claims from those that get carried away and end up doing "bad things" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exdeath Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 My '08 came with the wrench, so yeah, they probably only just started doing that. That's silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted April 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Good god, are we really bitching about this? You can get a whole set of allen wrenches for around 5 bucks at Lowes.Now what are you going to do with allen wrenches on a Gibson truss rod? And don't you know that "bitching about minor issues" is an inalienable HCEG right? Man, it's the foundation!Besides, as said above by me and others, it's the irony, not the "bitch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted April 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 I have a slightly OT truss rod story to share: Last year I bought an Alvarez MD5000 acoustic on MF's blowout for $999.99 (regular $2700)- some of you might remember that "SDOTD" - it has Brazilian RW back and sides. Well it's action was way too high for me. So I kept turning and turning (don't remember how many times - but not like "a million") and I was getting a little scared because I feel how tight the truss rod was getting Well I got it close enough and decided I'd better stop there. Well after the winter and dropping humidity etc, I picked up the guitar and now the strings are a hair too low. Now I basically know what I'm doing with truss rod adjustments, that it should only need 2 or 3 quarter turns, and I know how to help the neck along with some manual flexing, and I've seen where the neck might take a few days to respond, but this was the first time that I saw one take at least a couple months to respond. But I'm sure glad it did. I haven't done it yet, but I'm sure glad I'm going to be able to loosen that truss rod back up a hair. I was really afraid that I was either going to run out of adjustment room on that guitar or bust the rod or pop off the fretboard. And as a side note, that guitar is somewhat "meh". My quest for a boomy yet articulate dreadnaught will continue. I think that's the last time I'll buy an acoustic on line. That's just one instrument that I really think you need to go "brick and mortar". There's just too much variation even with same model of "the big names". But this Alvarez does have a nice articulate sound. But even as the ads said, its bass is "focused". I wanted "flabby with moderate restraint". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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