Members RoboCop00 Posted July 9, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 Coming from someone whose family is 100% Sicilian, I consider myself 'Italian-American' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted July 9, 2006 Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 Originally posted by harold heckuba Back on topic, Joe Walshs replacement in James Gang was Dominic Troiano (sp?), he was a great player. Born in Italy, raised in Toronto. Unfortunately died last May due to cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 9, 2006 Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 (His mama's maiden name was Adele Zirilli.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboCop00 Posted July 9, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 VIVA LA ITALIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboCop00 Posted July 9, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 Apparantly Joe Perry, also Perry, was born to the children of Portuguese and Italian immigrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimbal Posted July 9, 2006 Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 Sorry all, Zappa is of Arab decent. Look a the schnozes on the Zappa's that ain't no Roman nose it's a Lebanese honker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 9, 2006 Members Share Posted July 9, 2006 Originally posted by kimbal Sorry all, Zappa is of Arab decent. Look a the schnozes on the Zappa's that ain't no Roman nose it's a Lebanese honker. Sorry to you, too. Frank's dad was born in Sicily AND Frank had an Italian mama, as well... Frank Zappa was born in Baltimore, Maryland on December 21, 1940, to Francis Zappa (born in Partinico, Sicily, of Greek and Lebanese descent) and Rose Marie Colimore (who was of 3 quarters Italian including Sicilian and 1/4 French descent). In fact "Zappa" is an Italian name; zappa means "hoe", as in agricultural hand tool. By the way, most Lebanese I know take exception to being called "Arab". Although they are now part of the Arabic-speaking world, they are historically and culturally Levantine, with connections to ancient Phoenecia. Many Lebanese have maintained a non-Arabic (as in not originating in the Arabian Peninsula) identity, to the point of holding onto pre-Islamic identity such that Lebanese Maronite Christian, Roman Catholic, and Byzantine Christian traditions can be traced to antiquity, even apostolic times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimbal Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hey Picker thanks for the history lesson. I am always up to learn more. Strange, if you do a search of Zappa he shows up on Famous Lebanese people. I am a bender and that ain't no bender nose. Look at a profile of Frank and Jamie Farr, could pass for cousins. Now, Luca Brasie that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Originally posted by kimbal Hey Picker thanks for the history lesson. I am always up to learn more. Strange, if you do a search of Zappa he shows up on Famous Lebanese people. I am a bender and that ain't no bender nose. Look at a profile of Frank and Jamie Farr, could pass for cousins. Now, Luca Brasie that's another story. He certainly qualifies as a Lebanese-American, and as an Italian-American, (and as a Greek- or Franco-American, like the s'ghetti). Most ethnic groups are cool with including the famous, successful, and powerful among their number, even if the blood is thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uze Soap Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 My singer's Sicilian. I hope that helps my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AmazingDM Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Originally posted by RoboCop00 I just realized there are quite a few very talented Italian-American guitarists. Now that I think about it, a lot of them are in the 'shred' category.Steve VaiJohn FruscianteJohn PetrucciMichael Romeo Joe SatrianiAl PitrelliMichael Angelo BatioAl Di MeolaChris Impellitteri why did you limit it to just the ones that are American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Originally posted by AmazingDM why did you limit it to just the ones that are American? Maybe it's because the OP is an Italian-American guitar player who wants to find out more about other It-Am guitarists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AmazingDM Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Just seems to me like you'd say Italian.. either that or it was just another one of those dumb politically correct, gotta add hyponamerican to everything.Like..what, an Italian is gonna be pissed cuz you called him Italian? anyway, add me to the list I'm Italian and HAPPEN TO BE American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strangegrey Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Originally posted by Polaris20 Richie Sambora is not Italian. And Zappa was a Sicilian-American; and yes, as a childhood friend will point out, there is definitely a difference. Um, what exactly is Sambora then? IIRC, I remember him saying in that he was italian in a tv interview...but I might be mistaken. He most certainly looks, acts and dresses the part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Originally posted by strangegrey Um, what exactly is Sambora then? IIRC, I remember him saying in that he was italian in a tv interview...but I might be mistaken. He most certainly looks, acts and dresses the part... Don't actual Italian nationals (from Europe) consider themselves from their region first and citizens of the country second (ethnicity vs political identity)? So you have Tuscans, Umbrians, Napolitani, Sicilians, etc.? When immigrants came through Ellis Island, it all became "Italian" and the Italian-American identity was formed...maybe. Also, parts of Italy (Venice, certain areas of Sicily, Calabria, Apulia) were once under Classical Greek and later, Byzantine rule and influence. The mathematician Pythagoras was a native of the town of Crotone, in Calabria. Byzantines were the "Greeks" of medieval times, and they left their mark in the culture, art, architecture, and gene pool of those regions. Sicilian women can be heart-stoppingly gorgeous...especially if their papa catches you looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by strangegrey Um, what exactly is Sambora then? IIRC, I remember him saying in that he was italian in a tv interview...but I might be mistaken. He most certainly looks, acts and dresses the part... I believe that Sambora's dad is Polish and his mom is Italian, so he qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jec Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Joe Pass. I know that it's already been said a few times. But, Joe Pass is just that {censored}in' good! So.... Joe Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by jerry_picker I believe that Sambora's dad is Polish and his mom is Italian, so he qualifies. We may as well throw Jon Bon Jovi in the mix, too. He picks up the guitar from time to time. Original last name was "Bongiovi", I believe. Italian-American is different from Italian (as a previous poster asked). Italians are citizens of Italy, and generally live there and speak some dialect of Italian fluently. I'm an Italian-American: an American citizen of Italian descent, I do not live in Italy nor have I ever, and I do not speak the Italian language very well. So, there is a big difference between being "Italian" and "Italian-American". Both terms are politically correct, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brunog Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Frank Gambale, but that's Aussie-Italian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strangegrey Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by GibsonQC Italian-American is different from Italian (as a previous poster asked). Italians are citizens of Italy, and generally live there and speak some dialect of Italian fluently.... If you want to draw out that distinction, then we're going to have to cross 95% of the guys here off the list. Personally, when I refer to someone as italian, with respect to country of origin, the '-american' qualifier is assumed. I don't regularly interact with people that aren't american, so it's very simply to go 'he's italian' or 'he's italian and irish' etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by strangegrey Personally, when I refer to someone as italian, with respect to country of origin, the '-american' qualifier is assumed. And that's a very American phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sonnilon Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by RoboCop00 I just realized there are quite a few very talented Italian-American guitarists. Now that I think about it, a lot of them are in the 'shred' category. Steve Vai John Frusciante John Petrucci Michael Romeo Joe Satriani Al Pitrelli Michael Angelo Batio Al Di Meola Chris Impellitteri We Swedes own their asses. Yngwie Malmsteen, Fredrik Nordstr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdjonsson Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by Archdemon We Swedes own their asses. Yngwie Malmsteen, Fredrik Nordstr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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