Members zephyr Posted September 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2011 This is a Standard, right? So is it a twin-pivot bridge? I think there must be some way of dampening this. Yep. That's why I was thinking about the Teflon tape. Wrap it around each stud so it fills in the gaps between the threading.Or, perhaps a better made after market set of studs that might fit tighter.Either way, I'll see when I go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted September 30, 2011 Members Share Posted September 30, 2011 It just might need to be tightened/lowered (and the saddles raised to compensate). Maybe the bushing is loose and needs a bit of glue. Otherwise, it's a great bridge, though. I have three guitars with that bridge. They're all fully floating and they all hold tuning well and offer a smoother trem performance than any of the vintage style Strats I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted October 1, 2011 Members Share Posted October 1, 2011 I've got a Squire Std. Strat that is giving me buzzing problems.Took it to a tech (a highly recommended one in the southeast Detroit area) and have gone through several tweaking sessions. There seems to be more neck relief than normal and the action seems higher than normal, but I'm still getting considerable buzz on the 5th and 6th strings. Even through the amp. Checked the hardware and neck and everything seems tight. The buzz is indiscriminate of fret position up and down the neck.Whe I put my ear at various points along the neck, it seems to sound loudest near the nut and near the bridge, but it's hard to pick and listen at the same time.Any suggestions are appreciated. Get a Tele. It is guaranteed 100% to cure and Strat buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted October 1, 2011 Members Share Posted October 1, 2011 Get a Tele. It is guaranteed 100% to cure and Strat buzz. More like 85%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2011 Well, looks like I'm out of luck. Tech recommended I get one with a rosewood fingerboard instead.I even tried the teflon tape in the mounting studs. Didn't help at all.Can't think of anyone else to take it too.I sent an email to Fender to see if they can help me.Probably not much chance of that happening though...I'll have to save up for another one and hope it turns out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted October 2, 2011 Members Share Posted October 2, 2011 do you think it could be a loose truss rod? maybe you could take the neck off and tap it with your finger and listen for rattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 3, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 do you think it could be a loose truss rod?maybe you could take the neck off and tap it with your finger and listen for rattle. I can try it.What would I be able to do if it is a rattly truss rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitarfetish Posted October 3, 2011 Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 Here's what I always suggested to repair clients when we were chasing a rattle that nobody could fine- Restring- Go up a size- and then see where you are...Sometimes people chase their tail before trying the most obvious things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 3, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 The tech recommended that I try some nickel wound and or burnished strings.I kinda wanted to stay with 9's on this guitar to maintain that elastic, spanky, strat sound and feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitarfetish Posted October 3, 2011 Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 Honestly i think if you tried a set of 10-42s you'd adjust quickly enough- And I'd be surprised if you don't find the guitar louder, fuller with more of the Strat "Bell" tones in the 3, 4 and 5 positions on the switch- might even cure your buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted October 3, 2011 Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 I use GHS 9.5s in all my guitars. They're louder and brighter than 9s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 4, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 4, 2011 I've been talking with Eric at Fender customer relations.He advised me to take it back to the tech (he is Fender authorized),and have him look it over again, and possibly contact Fender about warranty options.This all seems like a lot of work for a $229 guitar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 14, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well, I tried another one.Does the same thing. Maybe even worse.I remember playing a couple MIM ones and having similar problems.Although they also had frets popping out and one had a bridge that wasn't mounted correctly.I'm thinking that there actually might be some incompatibility between maple fingerboards and my particular playing mojo.I've tried other Strats with rosewood boards that didn't give me this problem, including an HSS version of this same guitar that was really nice. Should have bought it.I'm gonna try the rosewood version and see how it goes.Too bad, the maple version was pretty sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2011 Before I jump to the rosewood fingerboard,I'm gonna give the GHS Nickel Rockers a try.Maybe the little bit of extra tension, compressed surface, and darker sounding nickel wrap will be the ticket.Was thinking about the Daddario half rounds, but figured that they would be a bit too dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JTEES4 Posted October 17, 2011 Members Share Posted October 17, 2011 Rosewood does not cure buzz issues unfortunately. I have a Squier Strat that I love, and I've owned some expensive guitars over the years (and still do)...I really think it is simply the quality of the bridge, and the saddles specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 17, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2011 Rosewood does not cure buzz issues unfortunately. I have a Squier Strat that I love, and I've owned some expensive guitars over the years (and still do)...I really think it is simply the quality of the bridge, and the saddles specifically. Well, it had this issue out of the box (as did the other one I tried a few days ago), and the only things on the bridge that are original at this point are the baseplate, and the mounting studs/bushings, and the mounting studs have teflon tape in the threads, so I want to say it's not them. In addition to different strings, I'm thinking of shimming the neck to get a different break angle over the saddles. After that, I'm at a total loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JTEES4 Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 Well, it had this issue out of the box (as did the other one I tried a few days ago), and the only things on the bridge that are original at this point are the baseplate, and the mounting studs/bushings, and the mounting studs have teflon tape in the threads, so I want to say it's not them. In addition to different strings, I'm thinking of shimming the neck to get a different break angle over the saddles. After that, I'm at a total loss. I missed the part about the bridge parts being changed, I have found that the mass of the block does make a difference.....but if changed that certainly is not the problem. The break angle over the saddles being a problem seems unlikely, after all a string through the body guitar has plenty of break angle inherently. Do you still have the string trees attached on the headstock? I have seen this being a problem over the years. I have replaced tuners with graduated height tuners thinking I could get rid of the string trees (as the advertising says), but usually end up putting them back because the sound is deadened if not enough tension. I've also replaced the original string trees with rolling trees, but they were a little higher than the originals and again....not enough tension. Good luck with yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 I missed the part about the bridge parts being changed, I have found that the mass of the block does make a difference.....but if changed that certainly is not the problem. The break angle over the saddles being a problem seems unlikely, after all a string through the body guitar has plenty of break angle inherently. Do you still have the string trees attached on the headstock? I have seen this being a problem over the years. I have replaced tuners with graduated height tuners thinking I could get rid of the string trees (as the advertising says), but usually end up putting them back because the sound is deadened if not enough tension. I've also replaced the original string trees with rolling trees, but they were a little higher than the originals and again....not enough tension. Good luck with yours. Thanks.The tuning machines are factory, but it has the upgraded Fender roller string trees.They actually appear to pull the string down lower than the original bent steel trees.I only really get the buzz when I pick a wound string somewhere between the middle pickup and the bridge pickup. Only thing I've got left to go on is hope that a different string will have a smaller elliptical movement when played and tame this buzzy rattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 Well,I put the GHS Nickel Rockers on just a few minutes ago.So far, seems like they have tamed the buzz quite noticeably.I'm gonna let the neck settle overnight and tweak the truss rod and action tomorrow,but so far so good.One thing I noticed is that these strings seem significantly less magnetic. When I took off the Daddarios, the pickups sucked them down like black holes.But they don't seem to grab on to these nickel wound strings as much.I imagine that's part of the reason why these seem to work thus far.I'll report back after making some adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2011 After tweaking it with the GHS 9-42 Nickel Rockers, they were definitely and improvement....but still not where I'd like to be.I just put on a set of the 9-46 Nickel Rockers and so far they seem even better.A little stiff on the wound strings, but as long as the plain strings keep some elasticity, I don't think I'll mind too much.Have to let it settle and tweak it a bit more.I'll report back when I've finished tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zephyr Posted October 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2011 Pretty much have it set!Took out some relief, lowered the pickups a touch, and tweaked the intonation.Action is a little high, but still manageable.I just finished practicing my "pain face" for the last hour!Woo Hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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