Members swilder Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tomske well IMO i'd rather do something good and get diddly squat for it than do something {censored} and all show and get millions for it. And the good guys always wins The hero always gets the girls The underdog always overcomes come on now! Everyone join in! kum bay ya, my lord! kum bay ya..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomske Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 another bad "rock" drummer would be the drummer from green day wateva his name is, sure hes good at wat he does but hes overrated. thats wat i ment about travis barker, hes good for wat he does but hes very overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Majoria Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 There's a difference between the worst rock drummer and the worst drummer. The worst rock drummer would be classified as the worst drummer from a rock music recording, hence limiting what we are judging. The worst drummer would encompas much more such as those who can play one style or genre but nothing else. Most of the arguements against Travis Barker or Tre Cool and such are not against his drumming but against his lack of diversity, there's a big difference. A drummer who can play at 85% in all categories is to me a better drummer than one who can play 100% in one style but not even 10% in any other. That being said, the worst rock drummer ever was me, circa 91-95, and I have the recordings to prove it. No, I won't share them, they'll beat anything from Steven King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rogersdrummer18 Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 IMHO, Tre Cool ("that guy from green day) isn't a bad rock drummer. He's actually really good, he's a punk drummer that's branched out based on the needs the band expressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomske Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by rogersdrummer18 IMHO, Tre Cool ("that guy from green day) isn't a bad rock drummer. He's actually really good, he's a punk drummer that's branched out based on the needs the band expressed. he ain't a bad rock drum, hes pretty good for what he does. but i don't like his style, or for that matter green day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Seems like pretty much all of the guys mentioned so far have some merits that got them where they are. Sure I hate Tommy Lees playing, but in all honesty im sitting in a cubicle all day, playing drums for fun, and hes banging Hot chix and playing drums for a fantastic amount of coin. Who am I to judge? Seems like, asshole that he is, he did something right and I {censored}ed up:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SudzDrummer Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 yeah he did something right... he acted like a {censored}up and got on tour with kiss... another technically {censored}ty rock band who are only good at theatrics. Mraia, you should have been practicing hair coiffing, whiskey pounding and stick spinning instead of your rudiments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tomske http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/TravisBarker1.html look at that video, im not saying travis barker is crap but he is all show and very overrated. That is just about the worst solo I've ever heard. Simplistic, repetetive, and derivative. What a bore. Take away the lights and crowd and you have exactly the same thing that a lot of us were doing in our parents basements in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomske Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by mraia That is just about the worst solo I've ever heard. Simplistic, repetetive, and derivative. What a bore. Take away the lights and crowd and you have exactly the same thing that a lot of us were doing in our parents basements in high school. Finally someone that shares my opinion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phil_The_Rodent Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tomske well IMO i'd rather do something good and get diddly squat for it than do something {censored} and all show and get millions for it. Hmm. Interesting. You'll probably achieve that, then. Your job as a member of the team is to serve the music, and the music serves the audience. I'd actually say the worst drummers are the ones that put their own egos in front of the music that they're there to perform. The musicians that are making money are making money because people enjoy the music. That's what they're there for. Obviously, they're doing a decent job at it. Sure Meg White isn't all chops, but she serves the music well. It's very university--party type music. Like the Violent Femmes... Throw Neil Pert in the White Stripes or the Violent Femmes and it would be absolutely revolting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomske Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Phil_The_Rodent Sure Meg White isn't all chops, but she serves the music well actually jack white has made a new band call the raconteurs because meg white didn't really serve his music.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phil_The_Rodent Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tomske well actually jack white has made a new band call the raconteurs because meg white didn't really serve his music.. Didn't she? Sales figures seem to indicate she did. Sales figures may also show if Jack was right to ditch her... if that's why he started the Raconteurs, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rogersdrummer18 Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 wow phil, you cut right to the point, well put.ive never heard it put that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSimms Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by theFoot This guy can teach us all rock drumming. What are we using sticks for? Rock-n-Roll is simple "This is rock and roll." lol... This is the best thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by JSimms "This is rock and roll." lol...This is the best thing ever. God help us all:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 jeezus. we should rename this thread sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WillyRay Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by T Hofmann jeezus.we should rename this thread sour grapes. +1 As far as Meg White's concerned... I'd hit it. /w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted September 8, 2006 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tomske well actually jack white has made a new band call the raconteurs because meg white didn't really serve his music.. "When she started to play drums with me, just on a lark, it felt liberating and refreshing. There was something in it that opened me up." I think that when Meg White is brought up it often illuminates some interesting truths about rock. "Good", "worst", "better", "best" are all rather beside the point. As musicians we often focus on the technical side of things, naturally enough, because we personally confront the mechanics of musicmaking. The problem is when we forget that the ultimate test of the music we make is when it hits the ears (and hopefully, heart) of the listener. And the vast majority of listeners aren't thinking "I could play that drum part", "the choruses seem to speed up a bit", or "I wonder if that guy is using heel-toe to do those awesome bass drum triplets"... they're feeling elated, or melancholy, or excited... or maybe they're just not liking the song at all. While technique (or lack therof) comes into play during the creation of the song, if the song connects with the listener, then the technique, however primitive or developed, is "good" technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chunkaway Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Actionsquid "When she started to play drums with me, just on a lark, it felt liberating and refreshing. There was something in it that opened me up." I think that when Meg White is brought up it often illuminates some interesting truths about rock. "Good", "worst", "better", "best" are all rather beside the point. As musicians we often focus on the technical side of things, naturally enough, because we personally confront the mechanics of musicmaking. The problem is when we forget that the ultimate test of the music we make is when it hits the ears (and hopefully, heart) of the listener. And the vast majority of listeners aren't thinking " I could play that drum part", "the choruses seem to speed up a bit", or "I wonder if that guy is using heel-toe to do those awesome bass drum triplets"... they're feeling elated, or melancholy, or excited... or maybe they're just not liking the song at all. While technique (or lack therof) comes into play during the creation of the song, if the song connects with the listener, then the technique, however primitive or developed, is "good" technique. Great post but I fear it will fall on deaf ears in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swilder Posted September 8, 2006 Members Share Posted September 8, 2006 Originally posted by Actionsquid "When she started to play drums with me, just on a lark, it felt liberating and refreshing. There was something in it that opened me up." I think that when Meg White is brought up it often illuminates some interesting truths about rock. "Good", "worst", "better", "best" are all rather beside the point. As musicians we often focus on the technical side of things, naturally enough, because we personally confront the mechanics of musicmaking. The problem is when we forget that the ultimate test of the music we make is when it hits the ears (and hopefully, heart) of the listener. And the vast majority of listeners aren't thinking " I could play that drum part", "the choruses seem to speed up a bit", or "I wonder if that guy is using heel-toe to do those awesome bass drum triplets"... they're feeling elated, or melancholy, or excited... or maybe they're just not liking the song at all. While technique (or lack therof) comes into play during the creation of the song, if the song connects with the listener, then the technique, however primitive or developed, is "good" technique. Preach it bro! Music has the power to touch people's hearts and in some cases inspire entire generations. In light of that kind of power; conversaitions about which drummers suck and which ones rock seem kind of crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Last few posts are interesting. I never thought Meg White was all that bad. She gets it done. Its not Portnoy, but she keeps the beat (most times) and thats all she needs to do. If shes good enough for Jack, shes good enough for me. By the way, Shes not Sheila E in the looks department, but in the words of the Great Willyray, Id hit that. Definitely. Shes got nice Toms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aqualung211 Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 who the {censored} is sheila e:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by aqualung211 who the {censored} is sheila e:confused: Played with Prince a long time ago. I dont know what she's done lately, but shes a real cutie. Look her up at drummerworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the DW Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 She's also has her own band. Awesome. She is also the daughter of Santana's percussionist from the 70's, Pete Escovido (the E in Shiela E), along with her uncle Coke Escovido. Gee....I wonder how he got that name? Hmmm...... Or was it Coke that is her dad, and Pete is her uncle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by the DW She's also has her own band. Awesome. She is also the daughter of Santana's percussionist from the 70's, Pete Escovido (the E in Shiela E), along with her uncle Coke Escovido. Gee....I wonder how he got that name? Hmmm...... Or was it Coke that is her dad, and Pete is her uncle? There you go! I didnt know she had her own thing going on. Is it a latin kind of thing, dance, rock, funk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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