Members Carpathian Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Hi, I'm sure this has been covered many times before but I need a definitive answer from drum dudes. What material(s) under $200-$300 would you recommend for soundproofing my 12x12 room. I have two windows roughly 3x4 feet. What can I do to my room to keep the sound in yet still maintain balance. I was on musicians friend and found some studiofoam but it was pricey. Would that kill the sound heard from the outside or does it just affect the sound control inside the room.. Say I bought two of these and were used in combination with some blankets on the walls and two sheets of plywood or OSB with dead air in between them for the windows. Would that be overkill? I apologize for rambling but it seems I'm at crossroads with a sound issue that's bugging my neighbors more than me but it needs to be taken care of just to keep the peace. Thanks - Carpathian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Only way I know of to really sound proof a room is to build a room inside a room. Studio foam could help a little but not nearly as much as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members barny15 Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 All Auralex is used for is sound control within a room. It won't work as a soundproofing agent. Only good ol' fashioned mass will do the trick when it comes to soundproofing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Only way I know of to really sound proof a room is to build a room inside a room. Studio foam could help a little but not nearly as much as you want. Room inside a room with full blown framing and two layers of sheetrock with insulation? Or would something like a plexiglass frame with insulation suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes it has to have mass and air space between the two rooms. Yes the room you build should be insulated, the blow in type insulation has worked better for the guys I talked to than the pink stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cross Eyed Mary Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 4wmdDYUFfMM Wait till 3:48. You should watch the whole thing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Alright I'll build the wall. That shouldn't be too bad on my wallet and I can play at all hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 If you do it post pics , lots of em....perhaps an ongoing thread if you got the gumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixstringer7 Posted December 20, 2008 Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 I'm planning a similar project for my basement. There are a lot of good resources on the web, at the Auralex site, and other places. A good book on this subject is called Keep The Peace! Basically, though, effective solutions are costly, both for materials and labor, and installation must be done very carefully by someone who knows what they're doing. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2008 Labor will not be a problem as I will be doing all myself. It won't be a half ass job either. I researched Owens Corning and they offer a product called quietzone that fits between 2x4 or 2x6 post framing. Hardy backer and fiberglass panels would be nice also but the fiberglass boards are pricey. I youtubed a bunch of soundproofing ideas and materials last night and found some pretty useful information. I plan on bulding a 2x4 frame with drywall and the quietzone insulation and for the one window I have a have 2" corkboard that will sandwich a quietzone batt that will be used to make an insulation panel. Carpeted walls are my plans for the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixstringer7 Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Before you buy any QuietZone, you may want to look at this discussion:http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.home.repair/2005-11/msg03220.html Also, if I understand correctly, your plan is to build a 2X4 stud wall, fill it with insulation, and cover it with cork or carpet. The problem is that the studs will act as sound conductors from one side of the wall to the other. You need to build a staggered-stud wall to decouple the two sides of the wall. A good guide to soundproofing, which explains how to do this and much more, is here:http://www.soundproofing101.com/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the DW Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 some thoughts: If your primary objective is to not piss your neighbors off, you may not have to totally soundproof your room....unless you live in a condo, that is. If you are in a single family home, you may find that if you soundproof enough to bring the volume down to the level of a moderately (I said moderately) loud TV, the neighbors may be able to live with that. The number one rule of soundproofing is to seal all air leaks. You may want to consider buying some 1/2" to 3/4" plywood and cut it to cover your windows with a 2" overlap. Use foam weatherstripping as a gasket along the edges where the plywood meets the wall, and use 8 screws to fasten the plywood over the openings. Use the same weatherstripping around the sealing edges of the door. The other consideration is to treat the room with acoustic foam or other treatments to balance the response of the room and control 'standing waves'. If your room is too 'live', you'll get spots where no matter how hard you bash your floor tom, or kick your bass drum, you won't hear it at all. By covering three of the six surfaces in the room with some kind of sound absorbant material, you will eliminate this problem, and you won't have to play as loud to hear everything and everyone, thus reducing the need for brute force soundproofing. This is something a lot of folks don't consider. Of course, if you're playing death metal, or your neighbors are on the other side of the wall or ceiling or floor, then you pretty much have to build that room within a room to keep everyone happy. Hope this was helpful. Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Before you buy any QuietZone, you may want to look at this discussion:http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.home.repair/2005-11/msg03220.htmlAlso, if I understand correctly, your plan is to build a 2X4 stud wall, fill it with insulation, and cover it with cork or carpet. The problem is that the studs will act as sound conductors from one side of the wall to the other. You need to build a staggered-stud wall to decouple the two sides of the wall.A good guide to soundproofing, which explains how to do this and much more, is here:http://www.soundproofing101.com/index.htm I did read something similar but I might go with the quietzone anyway because I dont't want it to be crazy hot in the room and have already checked about ordering. Won't be much of a difference as I won't need much. I will use ply wood on the one window inside the room. The wall I build will have offset posts to dampen as much as possible. Right now I'm getting my measurements together to see how much space I have to work with and will my end result be comfortable and reduce sound. I'll start a thread soon after the holidays with my ongoing progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members offramp Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Wherever you would use insulation, use UltraTouch, instead. It's made from recycled denim jeans and other cotton-based things, isn't a whole lot more than insulation, has great SPL, and doesn't itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Thanks, looking it uo right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'm not sure on materials, but yeah, the best thing would be to put up 2x4 frames, fill the gap with dense fiberglass, and put up another layer of sheetrock. A lot of studios have a floating floor but I have no idea if that's necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Shouldn't be necessary as I am only trying to tone down the sound for the neighbors, not the rest of the house. Would be a lot more work than I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members offramp Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Where are the windows? Where is the door? Any closets in the room? Any chance you could sketch it out, somehow, so that any real designers--and those of us frustrated designers who love to do the work, have had some success, but shy away from calling ourselves 'designers', might all pitch in a little, maybe come up with something neither you nor someone else has thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted December 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 I've made a layout through paint but have no idea how to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members offramp Posted December 24, 2008 Members Share Posted December 24, 2008 Save it as a .jpg or a .gif. Upload it to a free image hosting site, then when you make a post here, click on the little yellow icon just above the text box--the one that looks like a mountain postcard--and type in the address of the image at the hosting site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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