Members KingOfBling Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 So on occasion I listen to the radio. Everyone once in awhile a band comes on where I think, "I would like this band a lot (maybe) if the wanker frontman didn't screw everything up." There are guys who aren't good singers, like Bob Dylan, who don't screw up the music. Then there are these types of singers who screw up perfectly good music. Here is my list:1) Every singer Van Halen has ever had (DLR, Hagar, Charone)2) Homeboy from Dream Theater3) Homeboy from Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Well said brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Except for David Lee Roth...I disagree with you in all other choices...seen them all live and everyone of them delivered! Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members staticsound Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Roth sucked, I read somewhere that in the studio they had to track his vocals one line at a time cause he couldn't stay on pitch. You left out Justin Hawkins and his amazingly annoying falsetto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Except for David Lee Roth...I disagree with you in all other choices...seen them all live and everyone of them delivered! Rod [video=youtube;Y38tfrbFU7U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38tfrbFU7U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Roth sucked, I read somewhere that in the studio they had to track his vocals one line at a time cause he couldn't stay on pitch. HAHAHA!!! I don't think I would have survived that. His band mates have a lot of patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Demonlight Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Lol I do full takes, do you think it's better to split it up rather than just do the whole thing? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CYmK3vyJo TBH David lee roth is not the worst I have seen live by far.. Even though he should be arrested for what he is wearing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 I always do full takes and generally re-do the whole thing for a few mistakes. If the mistake was really tiny or the rest of the song was hard then I'd go over just the few area's that needed help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Roth sucked, I read somewhere that in the studio they had to track his vocals one line at a time cause he couldn't stay on pitch. I believe this. You don't have to Google too hard to find a concert video of Roth {censored}ing up something big time. Off-key, forgetting the words, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CYmK3vyJo TBH David lee roth is not the worst I have seen live by far.. Even though he should be arrested for what he is wearing.. Ugh. Always more interested than running around being a dork than singing the {censored}ing song. I love Dave on record, but live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 WTF? At 3:14 Is he plugging his ear...? Well at least he was smart enough to turn that side away from the crowd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 That sucked but i won't define a guy as ruining hos band because of a bad gig...you have never had a bad one yourself? Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 That sucked but i won't define a guy as ruining hos band because of a bad gig...you have never had a bad one yourself?Rod +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drunkinminer Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Rush that's funny. For a singer that ruins bands they aren't doing to bad. The other can't make the claim that they have had the same members for 40 years. Bob Dylan doesn't screw up the music. His singing is the worst along with Neil Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 To me a singer that ruined a band would be someone like Stapp in Creed...he made them, then decided to become a "ruler" and ruined the band. That is if you lked them to start with! Or Axl in Guns...Bach in Skid Row...guys that defined the band's sound and then killed them with ego trips... Now a band that I wish had a diferent singer to my taste...would be something like Asia...I always imagined that super pop band with someone like Paul Rogers fronting them! That would be a super group! Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urca Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Ugh. Always more interested than running around being a dork than singing the {censored}ing song. I love Dave on record, but live DLR era VH was all about the party atmosphere, if you wanted to hear the vocals like the LP then stay home and spin the LP! If you want to go have a good ol' time, hear some live tunes (and not some guy just staring at his feet singing perfectly) and maybe pick up a lil' sweetie to bring home, then this was the show to catch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 DLR era VH was all about the party atmosphere, if you wanted to hear the vocals like the LP then stay home and spin the LP! If you want to go have a good ol' time, hear some live tunes (and not some guy just staring at his feet singing perfectly) and maybe pick up a lil' sweetie to bring home, then this was the show to catch..... I don't expect studio quality vocals live and I get the party thing - thats the "Dave" experience - but I still think there needs to be a balance between party and delivering some level of musicianship. Trust me, I do appreciate the showmanship and all... but forgetting the words cause he was too busy being a showboating dork, or just talking for 2-3 minutes while the band was trying to play the song - its ridiculous and annoying. He's kind of a joke really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amx13 Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 To me a singer that ruined a band would be someone like Stapp in Creed...he made them, then decided to become a "ruler" and ruined the band. That is if you lked them to start with! Or Axl in Guns...Bach in Skid Row...guys that defined the band's sound and then killed them with ego trips...Now a band that I wish had a diferent singer to my taste...would be something like Asia...I always imagined that super pop band with someone like Paul Rogers fronting them! That would be a super group!Rod I kind of agree, even though is hard to say who´s fault was when those bands broke up...I mean, I dont think Axl was the only onw with a huge ego back on GNR days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members indytoons Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'd have to add the guy from REO speedwagon.... "I can't fight this feelin' any longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 REM. I hate the monotone vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'd have to add the guy from REO speedwagon...."I can't fight this feelin' any longerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....." That's the crappy REO Speedwagon. Hi Infidelity is much better than that {censored}ty music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members staticsound Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 To me a singer that ruined a band would be someone like Stapp in Creed...he made them, then decided to become a "ruler" and ruined the band. Scott Stapp was probably one of the biggest douches out there...god I hate that guy. Completely ripped off Vedder's style...and very poorly I might add.Another one is Brad Nowell from Sublime. Don't get me wrong, I love Sublime...but he pretty much screwed his bandmates by ODing on heroin, right before the band broke big. That's some bittersweet {censored}...your lead singer/friend dying and then right after, the band you guys were in together hits the big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srspud Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 IF these guys would have had a better singer they might have been acceptable.[video=youtube;xrOek4z32Vg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted March 22, 2011 Members Share Posted March 22, 2011 Dougie or whatever his name is, the singer in The Temper Trap. He blows live. On record he's quite awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted March 23, 2011 Members Share Posted March 23, 2011 That sucked but i won't define a guy as ruining hos band because of a bad gig...you have never had a bad one yourself? Rod It goes way beyond "a bad gig". Live Scenes, he's horrible for the entire thing. The Budokan DVD he's just plain laughable. Don't remember Once in a Livetime, but I recall him being slightly pitchy even back on the I&W live recording too, although nothing that I'd consider all that bad. Hell, he's pitchy in places on I&W itself. He spends basically the entire of Hollow Years, that is, the studio version, slightly off pitch. Let's look at a few live clips of Pull Me Under over the years. 2009 - The whole thing's pretty much terrible, but the 2nd verse especially ("Watch the sparrow falling...")... [video=youtube;4ZEzt656VGc] 2004 - Budokan. Again, the whole thing's quite poor but the 2nd verse is priceless. [video=youtube;lqBCsdQVQHA] Getting bored, so I'll just go straight back to what, 1992 or 93? - Tokyo. This is more like it! Don't care if he's maybe slightly pitchy here and there, whatever... he still sounds great, is mostly right on the ball, and speaking of balls... he actually sounds like he has a pair! [video=youtube;maOsgw-PKOM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maOsgw-PKOM Even when he's "spot on" now, he's just a wailing mess. He might have gained back some of his higher range more recently, but it just comes out as an incoherent nasally whine. Even back on Awake (easily some of DT and Labrie's best work)... there's a whole section of Innocence Faded for example (starting about 2:10) where I've never been able to understand a single word he sings, and this is back in what, '94 or something (?) when his voice was still good. Mind you, I think DT being ruined goes way beyond Labrie's singing. While I'm curious to see what they do without Portnoy, I get the feeling no new member of the band is going to be able to restrain JP and JR's merciless wankery. And still... I'd rather listen to older DT and endure occasional pitchiness and incoherency than listen to Hasse Fröberg of The Flower Kings, who I'm not sure has ever actually hit a note, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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