Members s4001 Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 got a jury sommons today. I suppose I'll go down and do my civic duty. However, I'm bringing along my copy of the US Constitution and the California Constitution and my Libertarian membership card. Last time I did that they kicked me right out and I haven't gotten a summons for 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Sounds like a good plan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Aussie Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 2 choices. Wear a 3 piece suit and speak loudly about shooting drug pushers and illegal migrants. Wear your underpants on your head and speak loudly to a pot plant about nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members s4001 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by D Aussie Wear your underpants on your head and speak loudly to a pot plant about nationalism. That person, they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmerz Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I've been summoned twice over the years, and both times made it into the jury box as one of the chosen, all the way up to the question: "What do you do for a living?" In both cases it was drug dealing, and when the prosecution heard me say "I'm a musician" as my livelyhood (not necessarily true, but almost) the next thing I heard was "Next!".....I guess it's role typecasting on their part, in a way, assuming someone that plays music for a living would be sympathetic to a drug dealer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 17, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 So rather than actually participating in the process outlined in the documents you carry there, you intentionally act in a way that will guarantee you get a day off work instead? It's okay to quote the Constitution, but only to the point where it affects you? Is there something I'm not reading correctly here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bonscottvocals Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I have long hair, and I say that I'm a musician. They still don't like us long-hair, freaky types in their court rooms. Being an ex-military weapons guy doesn't hurt either. Little do they know, I'm actually a Solaris Sys Admin for a major telcomm. (I really am a retired military weapons guy and I do keep my hair long, but I'm only an amateur musician. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by s4001 got a jury sommons today. I suppose I'll go down and do my civic duty. However, I'm bringing along my copy of the US Constitution and the California Constitution and my Libertarian membership card. Last time I did that they kicked me right out and I haven't gotten a summons for 15 years. I'll have to do that... except for the Libertarian membership card. Don't have one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I thought that it was supposed to be "a jury of your peers?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 They seem to throw out engineers pretty commonly as well. I'll just pile on all the reasons not to want me should I ever get a summons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members s4001 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by Craigv So rather than actually participating in the process outlined in the documents you carry there, you intentionally act in a way that will guarantee you get a day off work instead? It's okay to quote the Constitution, but only to the point where it affects you? Is there something I'm not reading correctly here? I fully intend to participate. Last time I was summoned it was a drug case and I simply said, I'm a Libertarian and I disagree with current drug laws, but I will observe the case to the best of my ability. That got me thrown out.Don't look at me, look at the lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmerz Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Craig, I don't quote the Constitution in any way. I just live my life by playing the game on a daily basis, with whatever rules apply to that day....not to say I'm out of control, or anything like that, but I still have a lot of fun a lot of the time... I also don't feel that I've been a good enough member of society to pass judgement in any way on any other person. I've had my problems, and although I've never been arrested, there were several times when I should have been. I do care about getting dangerous criminals off the streets, that's why I pay an OUTRAGEOUS amount of taxes here in California from each one of my paychecks. I hope you can tell I'm serious about my reply, here.The "day off work" comment stung a little, as I'm sure you intended it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by niomosy They seem to throw out engineers pretty commonly as well. I'll just pile on all the reasons not to want me should I ever get a summons Huh, I wonder why they poop on engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Insomniac Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 My wife got summoned for jury duty last year. She was selected to be a member of the jury for a murder trial and then the jury picked her to be the foreperson. She played by the rules and at the end of the day didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 17, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by timmerz Craig, I don't quote the Constitution in any way. I just live my life by playing the game on a daily basis, with whatever rules apply to that day....not to say I'm out of control, or anything like that, but I still have a lot of fun a lot of the time...I also don't feel that I've been a good enough member of society to pass judgement in any way on any other person. I've had my problems, and although I've never been arrested, there were several times when I should have been.I do care about getting dangerous criminals off the streets, that's why I pay an OUTRAGEOUS amount of taxes here in California from each one of my paychecks.I hope you can tell I'm serious about my reply, here.The "day off work" comment stung a little, as I'm sure you intended it to. My post was a reply to the original post, not yours. I referred to s4001 taking copies of the US and CA Constitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmerz Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ah!My bad....My apologies for the edginess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by el_duderino676 Huh, I wonder why they poop on engineers. They tend to think and be smart (or so goes the theory). Don't want analytical types on the jury. Emotions are better to work at, generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 17, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by s4001 I fully intend to participate. Last time I was summoned it was a drug case and I simply said, I'm a Libertarian and I disagree with current drug laws, but I will observe the case to the best of my ability. That got me thrown out.Don't look at me, look at the lawyer. Who're you trying to bull{censored} here? Did you really think you'd be permitted to sit on a jury after saying that? I'm not looking at the lawyer, who did exactly what the law says he must do. Trials are really quite simple. There's a law, and the state believes it was broken. You as a citizen, especially as a Constitution-lovin' Libertarian (and that's not a derogatory) have an obligation to help uphold that law, whether you like that law or not, for the trial. If you really don't like that law, pursue getting it changed outside the courtroom. Don't take it out on the State or the defendant at a trial by trying to get out of serving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted May 17, 2005 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by s4001 got a jury sommons today. I suppose I'll go down and do my civic duty. However, I'm bringing along my copy of the US Constitution and the California Constitution and my Libertarian membership card. Last time I did that they kicked me right out and I haven't gotten a summons for 15 years. If you read and understood either of the constitutions you'd understand that you have no use for them on jury duty. Bringing them with you is a childish call for attention and an excuse to be excused. If comedy is your goal, you've succeeded. I actually find jurors like you to be humorous. If educated and responsible civic duty is your goal, you have a ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ezstep Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 They also tend to dismiss teachers regularly. If you remember, a teacher will listen to how your dog ate your homework, and then give you a zero anyway for not turning it in. No matter what the reason, you either did the work or you didn't, and you were graded on it. Defense lawyers want someone sympathetic, not someone who will listen politely and then give their client a zero anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeonVomit Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I hope I never get chosen for jury duty. It seems like something everyone tries to avoid. Having said that, if I ever was, and was chosen for the jury itself, then I guess I'd do the best I could to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geuel Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'd love to be summoned...just so I could see how much it sucks. Then, if it sucks, I could tell my friends how awesome it was, so that they'll go when summoned. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members s4001 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by Kindness If you read and understood either of the constitutions you'd understand that you have no use for them on jury duty. Bringing them with you is a childish call for attention and an excuse to be excused. If comedy is your goal, you've succeeded. I actually find jurors like you to be humorous. If educated and responsible civic duty is your goal, you have a ways to go. Lighten up tiger. I've said twice that I'm going to do my job. It's called humor. I'm glad I've presented some relief for your tedious day. That's what we're all here for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 I have Jury duty too , don't the judges have long hair too. Hopefully I will fit right in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted May 17, 2005 Members Share Posted May 17, 2005 Originally posted by ezstep They also tend to dismiss teachers regularly. If you remember, a teacher will listen to how your dog ate your homework, and then give you a zero anyway for not turning it in. No matter what the reason, you either did the work or you didn't, and you were graded on it.Defense lawyers want someone sympathetic, not someone who will listen politely and then give their client a zero anyway. Makes sense. Lawyers prefer to play up emotions. They can be easier to work with than facts in the large cases. Anyone seen as more analytical is a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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