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Originally posted by flatcat

That scene takes place once a day in my house, every day, with my stepson.
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He has bipolar disorder.


That video is either bogus or that kid has a serious mental health problem.

I'm 50/50 on it....he doesn't seem to be playing the game in any sense which makes you think 'is this for real', but if a kid can pull off an acting job like that he'd win an acadamy award.

 

What it looks like is the parents set up a cam to moniter the kids behaviour. I also think he has a mental problem. :(

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Originally posted by BigPigPeaches

It would seem that the logical thing to do would be to get rid of the gaming system and make the kid read a book.


But then again, a lot of parenting these days is about easy, not logical.

Thats spot on, BPP. :)

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Originally posted by BigPigPeaches

It would seem that the logical thing to do would be to get rid of the gaming system and make the kid read a book.


But then again, a lot of parenting these days is about easy, not logical.

 

 

Well, that can be easier said than done.

 

BTW - it's not just gaming systems. It's homework, it's chores, it's family stuff, it's whatever.

 

Ours is growing - he's 17 now - and with every growth spurt the efficacy of his medication cocktail is questionable. It's all a big rollercoaster for everybody. It's worst for him, of course.

 

We got rid of cable television and we've installed time-limiting software on the family PC. We limit the amount of time with the gaming system(s). But it's a constant struggle, a *constant* struggle.

 

It is really easy to blame the parents. Parenting a child with a diagnosed mental illness is just about the biggest heartache going. You can get your kid the best specialists, a super-competent medical team, proper medication, support and love, and it doesn't make any difference - someone outside the situation says "Why don't the parents do something".

 

How hard is it for someone to show some compassion or give people the benefit of the doubt? How about "those poor people", or "that poor kid", or "I wonder what I could do to help?".

 

Walk a mile in my shoes, you know?

 

Just saying.

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Yeah, that kid's mentally ill, might be bipolar, might be ADHD (both present similar in kids) could be a couple other things thrown in to boot like organic dementia. It's not the videogame that makes him behave like that, he'd act the same on a playground playing dodgeball or if he were older in stop and go traffic.

 

I feel you flatcat.

 

I'm a therapist and caseworker, and I work with the worst of the worst for Portland, and I know that it's hardest on the families. Then again, half of them are the way they are BECAUSE of their parents, but the other half that are DESPITE their parents... makes me respect people like you.

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Originally posted by flatcat



Well, that can be easier said than done.


BTW - it's not just gaming systems. It's homework, it's chores, it's family stuff, it's whatever.


Ours is growing - he's 17 now - and with every growth spurt the efficacy of his medication cocktail is questionable. It's all a big rollercoaster for everybody. It's worst for him, of course.


We got rid of cable television and we've installed time-limiting software on the family PC. We limit the amount of time with the gaming system(s). But it's a constant struggle, a *constant* struggle.


It is really easy to blame the parents. Parenting a child with a diagnosed mental illness is just about the biggest heartache going. You can get your kid the best specialists, a super-competent medical team, proper medication, support and love, and it doesn't make any difference - someone outside the situation says "Why don't the parents do something".


How hard is it for someone to show some compassion or give people the benefit of the doubt? How about "those poor people", or "that poor kid", or "I wonder what I could do to help?".


Walk a mile in my shoes, you know?


Just saying.

 

 

I understand your point of view. I won't argue with it. We will not agree on this, I guarantee it.

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Originally posted by dakhwon

Second kid, the one B Bottom posted... he's not ill, he's just an asshole.
:p

 

While I find myself yelling at the tv when i get killed (especially when it's by some snot nosed brat) I've never gotten that pissed. I think the part when he yells "{censored}ing Blue Screen!" is just great

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You know what the biggest thing I've taken from this experience is, dahkwon?

 

My wife and I both work. She was a single mom for a long time, and just really had a time of it. I love my stepson, but it has very definitely not been easy for me, or for us as a couple. We've really tried hard to get him the best care we can. We've been through a small army of therapists, assembling a team of people who will work with us. We went to our local school district's go-to therapist...let's just say that his reputation was severely damaged by the way he dealt with my stepson.

 

Anyhow - we both work, we have decent jobs, live in a nice town.

 

The biggest thing I've taken from this experience is:

 

I cannot imagine how people that have not been as fortunate as we are - that don't have the resources we have, or the income that we do, or the family support we have - I cannot imagine how parents without those resources can possibly deal with this.

 

We were able to hire an educational consultant to help us get my stepson placed in a therapeutic school...and all during that process, with the school district dragging its feet every step of the way, I kept asking myself - "What do people do who can't afford this?"

 

That makes me want to cry.

 

We're just doing the best we can. I don't deserve any medals, and God knows I've made a million mistakes with him. You never get it right with kids with problems like his. No one gets out unscathed.

 

Sorry to veer so far off-topic. I mean, yeah, the video's funny, sort-of. I've just seen this in real life...a melt-down about not being able to tie a pair of shoes, things sailing across the room, kicking stuff, wrecking things....I just can't watch it. I live it.

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Originally posted by flatcat


The biggest thing I've taken from this experience is:


I cannot imagine how people that have not been as fortunate as we are - that don't have the resources we have, or the income that we do, or the family support we have - I cannot imagine how parents without those resources can possibly deal with this.

 

 

Wanna know?

 

They typically go two or three ways.

 

One: They press forward with whatever resource the school has, typically {censored}ty therapists who have pre-printed scrips for Ritalin. Or worse, they ignore the kid/beat the kid/put the kid down. Kid drops out of school, works at a McD's or Subway or gas stations till they get fired and move to another one.

 

Two: Parents manage to get their kid on Social Security Disability, and Medicare. Kid has to be pretty ill for this, and the process can drag on for a long time (3 months to a year) They then get to see whoever their coverage lets them. State counseling services is... good but overworked, and limited in what they can proscribe budgetarily.

 

Once kid gets older it's a toss up. The rate of addiction among the mentally ill is around 75%. All of my clients use drugs. Maybe he has bad luck with a couple bosses, doesn't make rent, and does some time in the shelter system or ends up homeless. Some end up in jail. Some end up in the state mental hospital system.

 

I get my clients at the bottom. I work for a program that gets its referrals from the local hospital's ERs, the jail, the police, and the county emergency mental crisis line. Boy do I have stories! One thing I have learned, though... is that most people without experience with this kind of thing THINK they know all about it, but in truth don't know {censored}.

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Originally posted by B-Bottom



While I find myself yelling at the tv when i get killed (especially when it's by some snot nosed brat) I've never gotten that pissed. I think the part when he yells "{censored}ing Blue Screen!" is just great

 

i find myself in angry situations alot of the time, and i yell somehting stupid, like mys soldering incident for example, i yelled, {censored}ing plastic swtich {censored}!!.

 

then i stopped, chuckled a little bit, put the guitar away, and pulled out the bass :)

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Originally posted by flatcat

I've just seen this in real life...a melt-down about not being able to tie a pair of shoes, things sailing across the room, kicking stuff, wrecking things....I just can't watch it. I live it.

 

 

i actually have had problems with this myself.. im not sure if its an actual medical mental illness, or if it's just because i'm always bottling up anger, but the tiniest little things will sometimes trigger huge, unecessary freakouts... like just the other day, the internet wouldnt load so i proceeded to run outside with my violin and beat it into sawdust.

 

it wasnt really because of the internet, though, it never is.. its always just some tiny little thing that tops off a bunch of other little things and pushes me over the edge.

 

so i know how this kid feels.. not to that extreme, obviously, because when it happens to me it usually wont last more than about ten seconds before i realize im being ridiculous and stop, but i could understand how this could happen if it was an actual legit disease and not just me being stupid

 

i dont know about in your son's case, but with me it is no doubt because of bottling up emotions... its almost entirely because i'm a {censored}, and in normal situations where i should get mad i always try and see it from everyone's point of view and blah blah blah, long story short i dont do anything about it. so if i could provide any advice it'd just be what im sure your son's therapist has already told you, to encourage your son to try and balance it out-- go ahead and get upset about things in normal life when he feels it's merited-- assert himself when he needs to, and he might not be so prone to explode

 

though i know this and i still have problems, so i doubt it'll be of any use.

 

well good luck, anyway, i know it must be hard

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Originally posted by ryanstanley



i actually have had problems with this myself.. im not sure if its an actual medical mental illness, or if it's just because i'm always bottling up anger, but the tiniest little things will sometimes trigger huge, unecessary freakouts... like just the other day, the internet wouldnt load so i proceeded to run outside with my violin and beat it into sawdust.


it wasnt really because of the internet, though, it never is.. its always just some tiny little thing that tops off a bunch of other little things and pushes me over the edge.

 

 

1) Don't take up drinking. Ever.

2) Avoid any illegal drugs other than weed.

3) Go see a therapist. Uncontrollable short fits of rage are a small thing that can result in disasterous consequences. A little anger managment therapy goes a long way.

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Originally posted by BigPigPeaches




Because a depressant is good for potential depression?

 

 

Anger and rage issues equate potential depression how? Typically, while I don't use any drugs myself, I don't group marijuana with other narcotic substances when dealing with clients unless addiction related diagnoses come into play. What do you do with your clients?

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Originally posted by dakhwon



Anger and rage issues equate potential depression how? Typically, while I don't use any drugs myself, I don't group marijuana with other narcotic substances when dealing with clients unless addiction related diagnoses come into play. What do you do with your clients?

 

 

To answer your unasked question, I am not a therapist, I am a veterinarian. However, it is my understanding that rage and anger can be manifestations of one side of bipolar disorder.

 

That having been said, I don't dispense medical advice (especially when it's regarding illegal substances) to people who AREN'T my clients. That violates several codes of ethics and law, as you know. And I don't need to point out that you do not have a valid patient/therapist relationship with someone you know over the internet.

But I will anyway.

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