Members superiorparts Posted October 19, 2007 Members Share Posted October 19, 2007 so my soundman and i are doing sound for this outdoor music festival a couple of weeks ago and we supplied all the pa and backline for all the bands, if they wanted to use it. i was letting the bands use my bass rig, gk 700rbII, korg rack tuner, on top of two genz benz 4x10 cabs. it's a decent rig and sounds awesome. well this bass player for the next band starts hauling up this beat up ampeg 4x10 and an ashdown head(which sounded great) and i asked him if he wanted to use my rig so he wouldnt have to haul his in and set it up. mine was already DI'd and checked out. he replied "no, i hate gallien krueger and genz benz. my ampeg is in the shop." to which i replied "that's the damn thing about ampeg, always in the shop. sorry to hear that. never had any trouble out of gk!" thought it was kinda funny! to each his own but i thought everybody liked gk gear! guess i was wrong! i guess gk would have been his third choice since he played through the ashdown. the ashdown sounded great though, sounded better than any ampeg i ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 19, 2007 Members Share Posted October 19, 2007 That's pretty funny. I try to use backlines at all possible venues, or at least just swap out the heads. Moving cabs and repositioning/miking is just a waste of time, when so many times you don't EVEN mic up... ...which goes back to the "What should I upgrade first? My rig or bass?" question... Fairly obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted October 19, 2007 Members Share Posted October 19, 2007 That's pretty funny. I try to use backlines at all possible venues, or at least just swap out the heads. Moving cabs and repositioning/miking is just a waste of time, when so many times you don't EVEN mic up... ...which goes back to the "What should I upgrade first? My rig or bass?" question... Fairly obvious Then, what part of the rig should I upgrade 1st? The head or cab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 19, 2007 Members Share Posted October 19, 2007 Then, what part of the rig should I upgrade 1st? The head or cab? Unless you have a kickass mic, Lava Mic Cable, and dedicated soundguy, plus a bandleader that will let you mic, it's fairly obvious as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted October 19, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 The best upgrade is lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Azz301 Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 The best upgrade is lessons. +1 Yeh totally! I've been self-taught for 9 years, and I just started getting lessons very recently. Holy {censored}!!!!!!!!! I thought I was pretty good, but I realised I'm doing so much wrong. my playing is skyrocketing now! My prob was that I bought a bass, and joined a "band" (a mate had a guitar, and another mate had some drums - we all sucked) two days later. So I got thrown in the deep end, and made alot of compromises on my playing (like I still can't read music, and my slap needs ALOT of work) because I had to focus on just hitting notes and playing fast to keep up with these guys that had been playing for a year longer than I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boogiebassbill Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 never smoke stems.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 How could you hate both GB and GK? I mean the chances of that are astronomical:D Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members __tony__renaud Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 The best upgrade is lessons. +1 (or 2, I guess) I used to do a number of good-size shows with multiple-band bills. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a guy with utilitarian amplification gear who has a developed an artistic touch on the instrument sound better than the guys whose rigs look like a booth at a NAMM show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 +1 (or 2, I guess)I used to do a number of good-size shows with multiple-band bills. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a guy with utilitarian amplification gear who has a developed an artistic touch on the instrument sound better than the guys whose rigs look like a booth at a NAMM show. + 3 now? I have yet to find a rig that I can't sound good (enough) through. A million people have said it. The sound is in the hands. I have to try less hard to sound good on some basses and through some rigs, but I've learned how to adapt and sound good (enough) through too many backline rigs to be picky about gear in a live setting. I love it when I only have to show up with a bass and a cord to a gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members __tony__renaud Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I love it when I only have to show up with a bass and a cord to a gig. Me too, but your choice of cable will make or break your sound, reputation, and love life. I read that on HCBF, so it's gotta be true........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 20, 2007 Those are fightin' words for some - not with me, though. (I just wanted to audition the new "cop" emoticon) Fight?! Oh wait, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 Fight?! Oh wait, I agree. :mad::mad: Let's GO! Oh...crap...I agree too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I didn't always but into the whole "the sound is in the hands" statement. But to more I play, the more I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I didn't always but into the whole "the sound is in the hands" statement. But to more I play, the more I get it. I still don't buy into it. I think the feel of the music is in the hands but the tone is mainly in the gear. There is only so much EQ'ing you can do with your hands. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wanderlusterer Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I still don't buy into it. I think the feel of the music is in the hands but the tone is mainly in the gear. There is only so much EQ'ing you can do with your hands.Dan I don't think the tone is just mainly in the gear. It's a combination of all things, amp, bass and player (I'll skip the cable quips because it's really, really overplayed) but mostly the player is the one that has control of the entire process from beginning to end. I think personally, people just have too much frustration because they don't sound like they want to and are always on the search for the "holy grail sound" that they're looking for. Truth is, some people have it and some don't. If you go with the sound that you're producing though, you just might find you have something that no one will ever duplicate. That's kind of the nice thing about music how people emulate other people because they're trying to recreate the previous process. I've never read, heard or seen anyone though play the exact same way, with the same music note for note, the same equipment and the playing in itself be it slap, pick or finger playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceGhost Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'll play through anything and it won't change how I am as player, I'll always sound like me... just me through an ampeg or an eden or EBS or etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members been_effected Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'll play through anything and it won't change how I am as player, I'll always sound like me... just me through an ampeg or an eden or EBS or etc etc. +1 Yup, basically my thoughts. Just because I play through a top of the line amp doesn't mean my playing tone is going to improve compared to if I was running through a {censored}ty amp. If you suck on bass you'll still suck no matter how much money you drop on gear. Just look at lug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 bullcrap... if you're not using lava cables, you'll sound like crap either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted October 20, 2007 Members Share Posted October 20, 2007 I've eschewed using backline gear if getting my stuff up and running wasn't too big a hassle...the main reason for that being I used programmed effects and they're kind of tailored to my rig. If it is a hassle or there is some severe changeover limit, of course you just do the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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