Members -MBro- Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I love the sound and porabilty of my Roland Bass Cube-100 but I recently payed a very large venue and the band was complaining about lack of low end on the stage. The cube has an 8 ohm maximum speaker out so I figured if I bought one of these that has an input rating of 4 ohms I could rock the bigger stages when I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 This has to be a joke.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonjohn Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 That cab is a bit extreme for a 100 watt amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trauma_Luna Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 instead of buying that exagerated cab, that will cost you around 600, 800, even 1k, idk, i'd get a nice head, and a good 4x10 or 2x12 cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingeringam Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 This has to be a joke. C7 Me thinks as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -MBro- Posted February 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I suppose I could rent one. Seriously would even a smaller 410 or 115 cab make a big difference to my little cube -100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I suppose I could rent one. Seriously would even a smaller 410 or 115 cab make a big difference to my little cube -100 You'd be all 8 up if you plugged that cube into a fridge. If you want more mustard, you gotta buy more mustard, unfortunately. A 300w+ amp into a nice 4x10 will get you exactly what you're looking for, IMO. And by "8ohm minimum", that means you can't go lower than 8ohms. Running it into a 4ohm cab will cause it to overheat, and potentially release magical clouds of smoke. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -MBro- Posted February 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 It is 8 ohm max. This means a 4 or 8 ohm cab would work well? The cube is very small and I think its 12'' speaker and compact enclosure really limit what it can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roguetitan Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 It is 8 ohm max. This means a 4 or 8 ohm cab would work well? The cube is very small and I think its 12'' speaker and compact enclosure really limit what it can do. You are not getting it:facepalm: you cannot use a 4 OHM cabinet with an 8 OHM amp prriod forget all about the cube. go buy a 300 watt amp and a 4x10 cab or a 410 combo something like this will suffice OR this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I love the sound and porabilty of my Roland Bass Cube-100 but I recently payed a very large venue and the band was complaining about lack of low end on the stage. The cube has an 8 ohm maximum speaker out so I figured if I bought one of these that has an input rating of 4 ohms I could rock the bigger stages when I have to. Why would you figure that? You don't recognize the 'fridge' as a bit extreme? Your amp is only 100 watts. It's a great amp that I recommend regularly for a practice amp because it will get you thru small scale to medium gigs...and sound great. Once you start hitting medium gigs, however, the feature in question- it's extra output- is for adding another 1x12", 2x10" or 1x15" cab...something small scale like that(2x8", etc..). The power section of the Cube simply isn't designed to push a big cab like an 8x10"(2x15 or 4x12") effectively. If you really like your Cube, take it and try driving a few different small cabs to hear what matches up best with the built in 12" driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 It is 8 ohm max. This means a 4 or 8 ohm cab would work well? The cube is very small and I think its 12'' speaker and compact enclosure really limit what it can do. Your amp clearly says 8 ohms max for the external speaker. As for the amps limitations, it's only unable to do larger scale stuff. It's great for practice, sensible rehearsals, accompanying acoustic players such as cafe gigs, worship gigs, etc... The Cube 100 is light, very compact and very full featured...not to mention sounds great. Don't get bummed. You've got a great small amp for small scale stuff. You may need a 2nd rig for large scale stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Hamer-Bass-Head Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Why would you figure that? You don't recognize the 'fridge' as a bit extreme? Your amp is only 100 watts. It's a great amp that I recommend regularly for a practice amp because it will get you thru small scale to medium gigs...and sound great. Once you start hitting medium gigs, however, the feature in question- it's extra output- is for adding another 1x12", 2x10" or 1x15" cab...something small scale like that(2x8", etc..). The power section of the Cube simply isn't designed to push a big cab like an 8x10"(2x15 or 4x12") effectively. If you really like your Cube, take it and try driving a few different small cabs to hear what matches up best with the built in 12" driver. I don't follow your logic.... are you saying that the cube's 100 watts are "small combo watts" as opposed to say a ampeg v4-b head's 100 watts? or possibly he will damage his new fridge by underpowering it?:poke: I admit dragging a fridge around would be a bit extreme, but aside from the portability problem, what's really the issue here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 That cab's probably overkill. You could do it, but probably overkill. However, for other choices, your 100 might work great if you plug in an external 115 or 212. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I don't follow your logic.... are you saying that the cube's 100 watts are "small combo watts" as opposed to say a ampeg v4-b head's 100 watts? or possibly he will damage his new fridge by underpowering it?:poke: I admit dragging a fridge around would be a bit extreme, but aside from the portability problem, what's really the issue here? First of all, no, underpowering won't damage the cab. User ignorance could however. Watts are watts, whether they are "small combo" watts or tube watts. I'm saying that he is vastly wasting the potential of that cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thrustin Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I recently payed a very large venue and the band was complaining about lack of low end on the stage. Have you tried a 5 string bass. That might get you some more low end. They look more professional too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Have you tried a 5 string bass. That might get you some more low end. They look more professional too. Really? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sludgebass69 Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 I don't follow your logic.... are you saying that the cube's 100 watts are "small combo watts" as opposed to say a ampeg v4-b head's 100 watts? or possibly he will damage his new fridge by underpowering it?:poke: I admit dragging a fridge around would be a bit extreme, but aside from the portability problem, what's really the issue here? The biggest issue here is he does not understand ohm ratings!.......ah screw it, yes get the fridge and use it but make sure to crank your amp all the way up when using it. (waits for thread about why his amp made a strange noise and some smoke came out and now it smells burnt and won't make any noise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sludgebass69 Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Really? How so? you missed the thread/joke yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thrustin Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Really? How so? Yes. The B string would be lower that an E string. Lower. This guys wants more low end, right? And it is obvious that they look more professional. So, you were most likely not arguing with that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Yes.The B string would be lower that an E string. Lower. This guys wants more low end, right? And it is obvious that they look more professional. So, you were most likely not arguing with that point. Silly me. I thought he was refering to frequency content as opposed to pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 Still don t know how they look more professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pickinatit Posted February 14, 2009 Members Share Posted February 14, 2009 With 100 watts to start with, adding speakers will only get you so far in regard to increasing volume. Doubling your speaker surface area adds about 3db in volume (barely noticeable). Doubling your wattage adds about the same.So, I think that if you added a 2 X 12 I think that you would get an increase of about6db which the human ear hears as roughly a doubling of volume.But, from what other posters have indicated about your "Cube", get an 8ohm speaker cab. You could get the same effect by increasing your wattage to 300.The advantage to increasing your power is that by adding cabs later you can increase your volume even more as your venues get bigger. I think if you were going to increase the volume any more then double you would need to add both speakers and power (wattage). I personally would opt for this two prong solution for the reasons stated above. This is my opinion based on an admittedly limited knowledge base on this subject. I yield to the "sound techies" on this forum to determine if I am correct or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 14, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 Well into the second page with no return of the OP, and nobody suspects a troll????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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