Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 looking into having my effects go thru a separate cab to my main sound. but i cant find any info on how to set it up? anyone here doing this at the minute? im probs looking at adding a 210 to my 610 with the 210 covering my big distorted effects? andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Unless your 6-Pro has independent channels that can run simultaneously, you'll need another power amp, methinks. Unless you want to run your "clean" signal strictly through a DI, then you could run your FX through your current 6-Pro/HLF setup? That's how a lot of people do it. Just put a splitter before the DI and amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 You'd need a separate amp and cab and probably some kind of ABY box http://www.hartnollguitars.co.uk/products.asp?id=2078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Unless your 6-Pro has independent channels that can run simultaneously, you'll need another power amp, methinks. Unless you want to run your "clean" signal strictly through a DI, then you could run your FX through your current 6-Pro/HLF setup? That's how a lot of people do it. Just put a splitter before the DI and amp. hey RSB! no my pro-6 doesnt have that in it, so im gonna need to get another amp to drive the 210 cab. ive been looking on the net all day to find out what i need for this and i think this is basically what ill need, ive done a drawing so that its in my head. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 5, 2009 Moderators Share Posted October 5, 2009 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Correct. woo andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Yup! Instead of a head+another cab, how about a 210 combo or something along those lines? I think it would be cheaper and easier to transport if that's what the rig was solely intended to do? Over there you could probably score a decent Ashdown 210 combo or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renfield Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 (in)Correct. Fixed. An A/B box is not the solution, it will shut off 610's and turn on 210's when it does. If you want your effects cab running all the time, you need a splitter. If you want your effects cab running only when you use effects, you need a splitter and an A/B box to activate one side only, the B side is empty, causing your rig to "shut off" when activated. If you do this, you will experience differences in volume when you kick in the effects cab. The solution is to turn off and on your effects that go to the effects cab, but it runs all the time no matter what. A looper will help facilitate this. I've done virtually every variation of the concept in my career, I've even utilized a 16 channel mixer to blend effects at one point. A wet/dry blend of effects is the cornerstone of my tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 5, 2009 Moderators Share Posted October 5, 2009 Fixed. An A/B box is not the solution, it will shut off 610's and turn on 210's when it does. Most run an A+B setting. I figured he knew at least that much, but I know what happens when I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 True. A splitter or looper (A/B/Y) with adjustable levels would be ideal here. I've always had a problem with FX being too quiet or loud when trying to separate lines and never bothered fixing the problem, lol. Another reason I don't use them anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Fixed.An A/B box is not the solution, it will shut off 610's and turn on 210's when it does.If you want your effects cab running all the time, you need a splitter. If you want your effects cab running only when you use effects, you need a splitter and an A/B box to activate one side only, the B side is empty, causing your rig to "shut off" when activated. If you do this, you will experience differences in volume when you kick in the effects cab. The solution is to turn off and on your effects that go to the effects cab, but it runs all the time no matter what. A looper will help facilitate this.I've done virtually every variation of the concept in my career, I've even utilized a 16 channel mixer to blend effects at one point. A wet/dry blend of effects is the cornerstone of my tone. thinking about it i wrote the A/b wrong i ment an a/b/y i think, where you can turn the a channel on/off and the b on/off or have them both on. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Boss LS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renfield Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 thinking about it i wrote the A/b wrong i ment an a/b/y i think, where you can turn the a channel on/off and the b on/off or have them both on.andy This is better. An A/B/Y will cover things as well, but IME is also not the ideal solution, which is why I made some other suggestions based on personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 This is better. An A/B/Y will cover things as well, but IME is also not the ideal solution, which is why I made some other suggestions based on personal experience. i kinda get what you mean? basically have one of the swtiches channels turning the effects on and of but leaving the 210 running. i'd be looking for a bit of increase when i kicked in the effects, and id probs have a small part of it running all the time. to add grit this way my bass could be really clean thru my 610. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renfield Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 i kinda get what you mean? basically have one of the swtiches channels turning the effects on and of but leaving the 210 running.i'd be looking for a bit of increase when i kicked in the effects, and id probs have a small part of it running all the time. to add grit this way my bass could be really clean thru my 610.andy You sir, need a looper. The Boss LS-2 would probably be ideal. Two switchable loops with level control so they can be set louder than the off position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Yup!Instead of a head+another cab, how about a 210 combo or something along those lines? I think it would be cheaper and easier to transport if that's what the rig was solely intended to do?Over there you could probably score a decent Ashdown 210 combo or something along those lines. im still open to this idea, one of the videos ive seen the bassist has a redhead combo and a full mesa dual rectifier rig! as well as a 8 x 8 swr rig! sounds sick! i dnt wanna go that far but having a bit of dirt behind my normal tone would be awesome! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 You sir, need a looper. The Boss LS-2 would probably be ideal. Two switchable loops with level control so they can be set louder than the off position. The only downfall of the LS-2 that I came across is you have to cycle through to get your changes, but depending on what he wants to do it may still work. I had to set everything up in one chain when I had it, b/c you can't do A/off or B/off without multiple taps. GM made me a kickass looper w/ individual "volume" adjustments, A switch, B switch, and master off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 im still open to this idea, one of the videos ive seen the bassist has a redhead combo and a full mesa dual rectifier rig! as well as a 8 x 8 swr rig! sounds sick! i dnt wanna go that far but having a bit of dirt behind my normal tone would be awesome! andy Haha I believe that's Amy of Clatter. She's exactly who I was thinking of when I recommended the combo approach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 You sir, need a looper. The Boss LS-2 would probably be ideal. Two switchable loops with level control so they can be set louder than the off position. i dnt mean to be stupid! but are we talking of looping my normal signal but putting effects in one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 Haha I believe that's Amy of Clatter. She's exactly who I was thinking of when I recommended the combo approach! got it in one dude! if that combo wasn't 1600 quid id be tempted! same goes for the 3 grand mesa rig but i love that tone! when everythings in! and in my band that would just fill out the sound! also it would allow me to run my amp with less gain, so i'd cut thru our guitars really well but still have some dirt. ok a bit more gear to carry around but tbh the tone would be so good i can deal with that! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 I really like my MXR M80 for this - it's got a clean out and a distortion out. One to one cab, one to the other. That said, if you have a guitar amp, the suggestion on Talkbass to use one of those for distortion is a good one, as long as you high pass the signal so you're not fragging your guitar speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I really like my MXR M80 for this - it's got a clean out and a distortion out. One to one cab, one to the other.That said, if you have a guitar amp, the suggestion on Talkbass to use one of those for distortion is a good one, as long as you high pass the signal so you're not fragging your guitar speaker. intresting! this as oppose to a ab box andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I really like my MXR M80 for this - it's got a clean out and a distortion out. One to one cab, one to the other.That said, if you have a guitar amp, the suggestion on Talkbass to use one of those for distortion is a good one, as long as you high pass the signal so you're not fragging your guitar speaker. If the Mesa onboard dist/OD wasn't so good, I'd probably be running a Rectifier combo for my drive/bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 If the Mesa onboard dist/OD wasn't so good, I'd probably be running a Rectifier combo for my drive/bite. those rectifier rigs are awesome! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2009 whats people's views on ashdown mag stuff? just found a few bits? a mag 300 head and 300w cab? would that be enough to push my effects over my ampeg? plus sadly swr redheads totally out cant even afford a second hand one! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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