Members poomwah Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 I've been wanting one of these for a very long time. Now I've got one and I'm less than thrilled.Maybe I've just learned more about how to use my eq and my amp sounds better than it did a year ago. Maybe my playing style has improved or otherwise changed in a way that got me closer to the tone I wanted.Maybe I'm using it wrong. If I use the suggested settings for svt all I seem to get is a boost in volume. Not a noticable change in tone. Doesn't seem like there is a difference in tone until you turn the character knob high enough to get distortionAnybody else have this experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 i played around with the suggested settings for a while and i noticed that i had to take the level down a lot from all of them if i wanted to switch between that effect and anything else. the vt bass pedal is made to properly drive a power amp thats why its got that crazy output. ill post the settings i use when i get home tonight. i pretty much leave it on all the time unless i switch over to my mxr m80 bass di pedal with the character switch engaged for more modern hard rock tone. my tone with the vt bass pedal isint crazy grindy or anythin just some emulated tube warmness i guess you could call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 clean amp is clean? What are you plugging the pedal into? (Amp) which input? (instrument or power amp in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 Turned it way up yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpax Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 I don't have a VT but I like my Bass Driver DI and my RPM best when I drive it straight into a poweramp (completely bypass the amps preamp).The SansAmps are preamps in their own right so I just use them fed into my amp's poweramp in or effects return (same thing).They have so much eq of their own that it gets to weird cascading them into the amp's preamp. My SansAmps blow away the preamps of all my amps (Peavey VB2, GK 1001RB, SVT Classic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 I have a hartke 3500 I tried running through the active input and tried through the effects return.From 7 o clock to about 1 o clock, the character knob does VERY little, bad pedal maybe? Or am I expecting too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 Man you cannot possibly have that kinda luck Contact Tech21 support, and try fiddling with your input volume. I think the Character setting probably has a volume-sensitive compression-type effect, but I could be wrong...e.g. it does more depending on the input volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 well that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WillPlay4food Posted January 5, 2010 Members Share Posted January 5, 2010 Just to provide some yang to poomwah's yin, I got my VT pedal last weekend and within two minutes of playing with it, I'd fallen in love. Now I have to write an iPhone app to hold all my favorite settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Davedblyoo Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Are you using an active or passive bass? If you're going active, set the eq flat on the bass then try the pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Passive, I'm using my epi birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 I was reading a review on the vt, and the reviewer mentioned how sensitive the knobs are, as an example he said one of his preferred settings had the character knob between 11 and 11:30 and said that a little bit makes a big difference. Is this true.From 12 down, it doesn't do more than act like a tone knob, the only diff between seven and noon is a slight change in tone :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yanikins Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Level - 1 O'clockMid - 9Character - About 10:30Drive - 8Low and High at about 11:45 Gives my SWR a bit of warmth. I find the gain on these things is disgusting. Way too clippy above 12 o'clock. You using fresh a fresh battery? Hope you find a use for it. Oh and I have my wet/dry effect mix on my amp at about 90% wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm using a wall wart instead of battery.There's those in between settings again.Character 10:30.I can go from 9 to 11 before it changes and even then its a subtle difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yanikins Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 What kind of result are you looking for? What sound do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Tone similar to allen woody from govt mulePhil lynott from thin lizzyGene simmons 70s stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 So I should be seeing a night and day difference right?I'm not finding anything I couldn't do with my eq except for the distortion that I don't want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 So I should be seeing a night and day difference right? it was clear to me right from the get go. is it possible you got two bad pedals in a row? can you go to a guitard center and try one there to see if its the same as the one you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 6, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2010 So I should be seeing a night and day difference right?I'm not finding anything I couldn't do with my eq except for the distortion that I don't want The pedal is EQ + distortion. What are you expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moogieotter Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Clean Ears at 8:00 am daily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted January 6, 2010 Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 The pedal is EQ + distortion. What are you expecting? Check out this thread- http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607213&highlight=magic Dude scopes the VT bass. It's a little more than a standard distortion, anyway, from what I can tell. Seems like the Character knob adds relatively balanced even order harmonics and the Drive knob adds distorted levels of even order harmonics. I could be reading those scopes wrong though Poomwah, you might want to check that thread out to get more of a feel for what's going on too, as it describes how to "flatten" the eq as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 The pedal is EQ + distortion. What are you expecting? I was expecting it to do something more than just eq and distortion for 150 bucks.There's nothing I can do with this that I can't do with my korg ax3000b I expected an svt sound. I hooked it through my toneport and it doesn't sound like an ampegMy hartke 3500 with the way I have the eq set sounds closer than the vt with the factory suggested setting I guess I was expecting more, I should have done more research I guess, if I had known it was just distortion and eq, I would have gone a different route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 6, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2010 I was expecting it to do something more than just eq and distortion for 150 bucks.There's nothing I can do with this that I can't do with my korg ax3000bI expected an svt sound. I hooked it through my toneport and it doesn't sound like an ampegMy hartke 3500 with the way I have the eq set sounds closer than the vt with the factory suggested settingI guess I was expecting more, I should have done more research I guess, if I had known it was just distortion and eq, I would have gone a different route What does an SVT sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 Lol Clean Ears at 8:00 am daily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 6, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2010 I don't know how to define or describe the sound, but they don't sound like this What does an SVT sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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