Members kaiser_sosea Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Is he behind bars yet? Playing gigs, loving life and not shipping cabs. I bet he's still taking orders though. I'm not up to date since the TB thread was shut down but every once in a while I sneak a peek at his Facebook or MySpace to see that he is doing better than he would like his customers to know. Then I go check out the "Boycott Dr. Bass" page to find, suprise suprise, people still waiting years for a cab. Anyway, don't mean to derail, Matt i think you should definitely rock the LDS 6x10 if he comes back to you with a good price. Then sell it to me for 40% off in a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Hey I heard Dr. Bass shipped like 3 more people's cabs Starting to sound a wee bit pyramiddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 his prices are excellent , I doubt you'll be able to resist . Yeah, he quoted me a 500W 2x15 for $500. Not to shabby at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emprov Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 just for {censored}s and giggles see if Dr. Bass will shoot you a quoteAFAIK, I was the first on the forum to buy Dr. Bass. I loved that little rig and I like his product in general. And, as much as Marc has earned his rep and then some, I feel bad for the guy. I can't believe how many customers I've sent to him, kinda gives me a weird feeling when I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingeringam Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 I read LDS building.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 One crazy thing about LDS, is that the higher quality cabs (e.g. not designed by idiots) resell for nearly the full price oftentimes. A bunch of the 15/6 cabs got sold for like 85% of what folks paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted March 4, 2010 Moderators Share Posted March 4, 2010 If it is fridge style stuff you're interested in, don't forget fliptops.net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted March 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 i got a quote of about 600 for a 2-way neo 6x10 - tilt-back, fridge style, 900 watts, etc. and 550 for the non-neo version. i figure it's a pretty basic cabinet, that should pretty well cover my needs. and for the dumb kid - what's the (tonal) difference (in general) between sealed and ported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emprov Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 and for the dumb kid - what's the (tonal) difference (in general) between sealed and ported?It's my understanding that the low end tends to roll off more gradually in sealed cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 i got a quote of about 600 for a 2-way neo 6x10 - tilt-back, fridge style, 900 watts, etc.and 550 for the non-neo version.i figure it's a pretty basic cabinet, that should pretty well cover my needs. and for the dumb kid - what's the (tonal) difference (in general) between sealed and ported? Ported = deeper/looser responseSealed = tighter/quicker response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Generalization: Sealed cabs will roll off earlier in the low end but do it more smoothly. Ported cabs will have more sensitivity under ~150hz but will roll off very rapidly and may, depending on the design, have a "bump" around 100hz that, in worst cases is boomy - in many cases it gives a "warm" tone, when it's subtle. The Basslite s2010, which is probably what Don would use, has a high enough QTS that it will behave decently in either type of cabinet, but I'd suggest porting it. No real reason not to get some extra sensitivity. Just my opinion though. The neo version will not sound like an old vintage 70s fridge, just FYI. The neo drivers have a much different midrange breakup than those old speakers (which are basically guitar drivers). The 6x10 ported with basslites probably has more in common with the new Mesa PH610 than anything, if I had to take a guess. Sealed, I'd expect it to be kind of similar to an NV610, but I expect there would be some differences in the midrange tones of course. All ballpark guesses of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members perrydabassman Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 i got a quote of about 600 for a 2-way neo 6x10 - tilt-back, fridge style, 900 watts, etc. and 550 for the non-neo version. i figure it's a pretty basic cabinet, that should pretty well cover my needs. and for the dumb kid - what's the (tonal) difference (in general) between sealed and ported? WOW! 600.00 for a loaded neo 610? I wonder what they would build a loaded neo 612 for???? can ya see the wheels spinning in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Ported = deeper/looser responseSealed = tighter/quicker response Well, ported cabs with the same driver will go deeper but everything else here is urban legend. Depending on what you mean by "tighter." The quicker response thing is perception based entirely on the frequency response of cabs. Poorly designed ported cabs are the real culprit here since a big boom in the upper bass from a too small ported cab is what makes it sound "slow" most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 i got a quote of about 600 for a 2-way neo 6x10 - tilt-back, fridge style, 900 watts, etc.and 550 for the non-neo version. FYI: Be sure to request the ultralight plywood. It might cost a few bucks more but it's well worth it. Figure 10+lbs difference in weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted March 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 WOW! 600.00 for a loaded neo 610? I wonder what they would build a loaded neo 612 for???? can ya see the wheels spinning in here? i'm really tempted to ask. or at least a 4x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members perrydabassman Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 i'm really tempted to ask. or at least a 4x12 If ya do ask, lemme know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted March 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 If ya do ask, lemme know.... i've asked. we'll see what comes of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well, ported cabs with the same driver will go deeper but everything else here is urban legend. Depending on what you mean by "tighter." The quicker response thing is perception based entirely on the frequency response of cabs. Poorly designed ported cabs are the real culprit here since a big boom in the upper bass from a too small ported cab is what makes it sound "slow" most of the time. I'm not talking poorly designed vs not poorly designed vs driver a vs driver b. I'm talking similar cab dimensions and similar drivers. This being the case, ported cabs will go deeper and have a "looser" (slower low-end rolloff) response than sealed cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted March 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 so, if one were going to try and build (or have built for them) a good all-around cabinet. stand-alone. full in sound from top to bottom. good lows, good mids, good highs, etc. would one choose ported or sealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 so, if one were going to try and build (or have built for them) a good all-around cabinet. stand-alone. full in sound from top to bottom. good lows, good mids, good highs, etc.would one choose ported or sealed? Ported for the style of music you generally play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'm not talking poorly designed vs not poorly designed vs driver a vs driver b. I'm talking similar cab dimensions and similar drivers. This being the case, ported cabs will go deeper and have a "looser" (slower low-end rolloff) response than sealed cabs. You are backwards. Ported cabs roll off very quickly but do it lower. Sealed cabs start earlier and roll off more slowly. And in terms of "looser" vs "tighter" vs "quicker response" - the quicker response thing is not really true. It might sound like it, but it's purely an artifact of the way the cabinet responds frequency-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted March 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 Ported for the style of music you generally play. based on what? my "new" style is highly different from my "old" style... i don't need tons of lows, but if i want a tin-can sound i'll take up guitar :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 so, if one were going to try and build (or have built for them) a good all-around cabinet. stand-alone. full in sound from top to bottom. good lows, good mids, good highs, etc.would one choose ported or sealed? The biggest choice for highs is going to be the tweeter and crossover. I would suggest you consult with the goons on talkbass, but based on what I know about Don's product availability I would suggest an 18 sound XD125 HF section crossed over at 2khz or so. 2500hz maybe. Absolutely get the horn on an on/off switch in addition to the attenuator, so that you can disable it if you want to use distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted March 4, 2010 Moderators Share Posted March 4, 2010 so, if one were going to try and build (or have built for them) a good all-around cabinet. stand-alone. full in sound from top to bottom. good lows, good mids, good highs, etc. would one choose ported or sealed? I might choose the NV610. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted March 4, 2010 Members Share Posted March 4, 2010 based on what? my "new" style is highly different from my "old" style... i don't need tons of lows, but if i want a tin-can sound i'll take up guitar :D Here's a comparison for you. Both are 6 cf cabs with 400w. Note it will be 5.3 ohms. Both have +6db applied parametric, 1 octave q @ 60hz. I am not sure if it gives you a great idea, but basically eq'ing a lot of low end bloom into a sealed cab is really hard. You have to do it by cutting mids and highs which requires more precision than just turning down the mid knob on most bass heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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