Members AlexMC Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 So I picked up the bass almost a year ago; I took a handful of lessons earlier this year to pick up the correct technique, and I've learned about 15 songs since then from Sweet Child of Mine to Sunshine of My Love via Back in Black and Sultans of Swing. Am I ready to look for other people to play with, given my limited repertoire? I don't really have any improvisational skills (I know chords and scales but don't feel comfortable applying them in songs)... If your local covers band were looking for a bassist, how much experience and repertoire would you expect them to have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonjohn Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 As long a you can pick up the songs quickly and play them close enough, anytime should be fine.Playing with others really helps you learn faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kaesh Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 there is no such thing as being too bad to join a band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 I recommend playing with people(a band or whatnot) as soon as possible. It will kick you in the behind like nothing else. It's the very best education for a player. Just be sure your not totally lost and can reasonably* keep up with the other players. *meaning, not distracting them if/when your off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chunky-b Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 Most covers bands I've dealt with expect a bassist to be able to pick up and play 50+ songs in that genre of the band... But if you are still asking the questions above, you may not feel you are ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orph Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 Well, I started playing in a band consisting of players miles above my skill level about seven months ago. I had played for about a year and a half myself, only, I didn't take any lessons, and didn't know any theory (except for basic scales). I replied to a "bassist wanted" ad, they had me in for an audition, and even though I screwed it up, they wanted me along. They were aiming for something down the road, and liked me as a person, and they thought the personal fit was more important. You'd be surprised as to how many share that sentiment. As others here say, there's nothing like it in terms of learning. I've actually become a mediocre player now, instead of an outright {censored}ty one. You learn to improvise quickly (knowing theory helps a lot here), and you learn to "just keep up". It doesn't really matter if you play a wrong note every once in a while, as long as you keep going (and you WILL {censored} up now and then, but it's all a part of the learning curve). It only took about two-three rehearsals before I started to keep up, and going out on my own. I've improved my stamina, skill, speed and ear tenfold during the past seven months or so, and now I can even jam and improvise. I'd never thought that it'd go so fast once I started out. Do it. Be confident, and be honest about your skill level, but also be sure to tell them that you're dedicated and that you WANT TO LEARN (if that's the case, that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlexMC Posted November 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 Well, I started playing in a band consisting of players miles above my skill level about seven months ago. I had played for about a year and a half myself, only, I didn't take any lessons, and didn't know any theory (except for basic scales). I replied to a "bassist wanted" ad, they had me in for an audition, and even though I screwed it up, they wanted me along. They were aiming for something down the road, and liked me as a person, and they thought the personal fit was more important. You'd be surprised as to how many share that sentiment.As others here say, there's nothing like it in terms of learning. I've actually become a mediocre player now, instead of an outright {censored}ty one. You learn to improvise quickly (knowing theory helps a lot here), and you learn to "just keep up". It doesn't really matter if you play a wrong note every once in a while, as long as you keep going (and you WILL {censored} up now and then, but it's all a part of the learning curve). It only took about two-three rehearsals before I started to keep up, and going out on my own.I've improved my stamina, skill, speed and ear tenfold during the past seven months or so, and now I can even jam and improvise. I'd never thought that it'd go so fast once I started out.Do it. Be confident, and be honest about your skill level, but also be sure to tell them that you're dedicated and that you WANT TO LEARN (if that's the case, that is). Thanks, that's a very helpful response! I could do with just jamming with a casual music group, but wouldn't know where to find such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 If you aren't famous, you ain't shit. With that, be proud of the fact you can play good enough to have some fun, and go have some fun! The rest will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted November 30, 2010 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2010 Might depend on how good the band is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=32714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Your skill level is almost irrelevant to the amount of work you're willing to put in, your enthusiasm, and your willingness to show up on time, and prepared. The skill will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chugheshc2 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 You only have to be good enough that they let you play with them. Seriously, that's the only thing going on. Also, as many have already said, nothing will improve your abilities more quickly than playing with other people. good luck, and get out there and play! cheers C> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j powell Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, I started playing in a band consisting of players miles above my skill level about seven months ago. I had played for about a year and a half myself, only, I didn't take any lessons, and didn't know any theory (except for basic scales). I replied to a "bassist wanted" ad, they had me in for an audition, and even though I screwed it up, they wanted me along. They were aiming for something down the road, and liked me as a person, and they thought the personal fit was more important. You'd be surprised as to how many share that sentiment.As others here say, there's nothing like it in terms of learning. I've actually become a mediocre player now, instead of an outright {censored}ty one. You learn to improvise quickly (knowing theory helps a lot here), and you learn to "just keep up". It doesn't really matter if you play a wrong note every once in a while, as long as you keep going (and you WILL {censored} up now and then, but it's all a part of the learning curve). It only took about two-three rehearsals before I started to keep up, and going out on my own.I've improved my stamina, skill, speed and ear tenfold during the past seven months or so, and now I can even jam and improvise. I'd never thought that it'd go so fast once I started out.Do it. Be confident, and be honest about your skill level, but also be sure to tell them that you're dedicated and that you WANT TO LEARN (if that's the case, that is). pretty much dead on for the first band i played bass in. go out and play, you'll get better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members engage757 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 you are not good enough. Plain and simple, if you second guess yourself, you are going to spend more time worried about whether or not you "suck" and not enough time on the music. I agree you should find some guys to jam with. Get more comfortable. When you feel comfortable, then go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kaesh Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I couldn't disagree more. I'm a firm believer in trial by fire - no better way to lose your self-consciousness than through getting out there and playing with other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cpt. Spliff Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Everybody starts as beginners and selfconsciousness can be a killer.If you have the slightest inkling of why you're doing, what you're doing in the songs you can, go for the Hell of it and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members engage757 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I agree Kaesh, but not many working bands want someone who doesn't have the confidence to put on a good show. I agree that the OP should jam with other people more, but indeed many players do this for a living. ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orph Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I couldn't disagree more. I'm a firm believer in trial by fire - no better way to lose your self-consciousness than through getting out there and playing with other people. I agree whole-heartedly. I knew I wasn't good enough when I auditioned, but I knew I would be down the road. I just learned the songs as best as I could (which was tough, as there weren't any tabs for any of them, and I had to do them all by ear, which was an exercise in itself), and did as good as I was able to, and as I said, it turned out good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rovito Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 Look on "Craiges List" under musicians. Also try "Bandmix .com". Put your phone # in your profile so others can get hold of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lurker Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 You just need to be exactly as good as Jah Wobble was when he was drafted into Public Image, Ltd, or better. He'd been playing about two weeks at the time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ezstep Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 So, a 12-year old kid begs and begs and begs his father for a bass and bass lessons. Finally, the father agreed if-and-only-if the son will report to him after every lesson and show him what he has learned. After the first lesson, the boy rushes home and proudly shows his father that if he plucks the biggest, top string, that is an open "E" note. After the second lesson, the boy rushes home and proudly announces that if he plucks the second biggest string, that is an open "A" note. The next week, the boy get ready to leave the house carrying his bass. The father asks, "You have another lesson?" The boy replies, "Lesson? Nope! I have a gig." I disagree with a few of you. Getting thoroughly embarrassed onstage is a GREAT motivator to improve and return to the same stage. It's called paying your dues. And I have been there a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lurker Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 I disagree with a few of you. Getting thoroughly embarrassed onstage is a GREAT motivator to improve and return to the same stage. It's called paying your dues. And I have been there a few times. One of the formative experiences of my musical experience was my first gig on electric bass, in which I got completely lost, caused a train wreck, and laughed "oh god I suck" to myself...... ....and then realized I was right by the microphone, so everyone else heard it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonjohn Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 One of the formative experiences of my musical experience was my first gig on electric bass, in which I got completely lost, caused a train wreck, and laughed "oh god I suck" to myself..........and then realized I was right by the microphone, so everyone else heard it too. Ha ha . That is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 1, 2010 Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 Let the band decide if you're good enough. That's what auditions are for. If you get the job you're good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlexMC Posted December 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2010 I certainly don't feel I'm ready to play a 30-song set in front of a paying crowd... but I need to find other people to play with, if only informally in someone's basement. Everyone has to get their first gig somehow! It's a shame none of my friends play instruments as that would be a preferable early environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.