Members GuitarPlayerFL Posted September 27, 2008 Members Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've been toying with the idea of running a dry center amp and a wet left/right stereo speaker cab setup (using a different amp) on each side. I know Steve Morse and Carl Verheyen use a wet/dry setup. It's more equipment and hassle to set up so... Anybody do this and is it really worth the effort as opposed to simply running a two speaker stereo setup with wet and dry mixed together? Is the difference in sound that huge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted September 27, 2008 Members Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've been toying with the idea of running a dry center amp and a wet left/right stereo speaker cab setup (using a different amp) on each side. I know Steve Morse and Carl Verheyen use a wet/dry setup. It's more equipment and hassle to set up so... Anybody do this and is it really worth the effort as opposed to simply running a two speaker stereo setup with wet and dry mixed together? Is the difference in sound that huge? The difference is HUGE. The benefits also are: more "options" for you. Here is a video of Bob Bradshaw discussing my W/D/W rig. Perhaps it'll give you some answers and ideas. Using this setup if I want a vintage guitar to amp sound, I can, then be able to switch to a more hi-fi sound w/d/w or to run stereo with the press of a button, adding pedals in front of the amp, processors through the wet section of the rig or both. [YOUTUBE]CdHwhMzJbeo[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarPlayerFL Posted September 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2008 Wow...thanks for the clip. I probably (never say never, though) wouldn't want two different effects mixes, but your rig sounds really great. Bradshaw lost me at points in his explanation, but I would definitely try it out now. Thanks for the info! Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted September 27, 2008 Members Share Posted September 27, 2008 I was afraid you might say something like that. Wow...thanks for the clip. I probably (never say never, though) wouldn't want two different effects mixes, but your rig sounds really great. Bradshaw lost me at points in his explanation, but I would definitely try it out now. Thanks for the info! Carl You're welcome, and best of luck with your rig. Here is an audio clip of the rig: http://www.netmusicians.org/files/76-zach%20rack%20tales.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted September 27, 2008 Members Share Posted September 27, 2008 I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spacehog26 Posted September 28, 2008 Members Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yep, I run W/D/W... my usual gig setup is fairly compact though - my wet sounds come from a stereo 2x12 cab, while the dry is a 4x12 sat on top of them. I know I could get more separation if I took more cabs, but a lot of venues just aren't big enough for that, and once it's all mic'd up it sounds pretty kick-ass and huge anyway! Other than the cabs I have an 8U rack, with 2 heads on top of it, and my pedalboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarPlayerFL Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 up it sounds pretty kick-ass and huge anyway! Other than the cabs I have an 8U rack, with 2 heads on top of it, and my pedalboard. If it's all mic'ed, wouldn't you need 3 mics? Dry, L, and R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 If it's all mic'ed, wouldn't you need 3 mics? Dry, L, and R? Yes, OR 2 Mics on the Dry cabinet... 1 to the console for the Dry sound the other to feed a mixer which feeds the mic'd amp sound into the line level effects, and send THAT signal from your mixers L/R output to the FOH or recording console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pjrake Posted October 1, 2008 Members Share Posted October 1, 2008 Yep, I run W/D/W... my usual gig setup is fairly compact though - my wet sounds come from a stereo 2x12 cab, while the dry is a 4x12 sat on top of them. I know I could get more separation if I took more cabs, but a lot of venues just aren't big enough for that, and once it's all mic'd up it sounds pretty kick-ass and huge anyway! Other than the cabs I have an 8U rack, with 2 heads on top of it, and my pedalboard. pics? please? i would love to see your rig! -PJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cmw Posted October 1, 2008 Members Share Posted October 1, 2008 Does it count if you mix your W and D together? I'm running a few preamps simultaneously into a "dry" submix, then that signal gets split into effects processors and they meet back up at a master mix (well, they will as soon as I get that that second mixer). I'm running two 2x12's so I could hard pan the W and D but I find it's not quite so satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spacehog26 Posted October 1, 2008 Members Share Posted October 1, 2008 pics? please? i would love to see your rig! -PJ My rig's currently in two places due to a small gig on Friday night, but I'll be taking the whole thing to rehearsal on Sunday, so I'll try and get some pictures then... of course, it's still a little bit in transition, with a GRX4, a Suhr ISO Line-Out box and a Rolls line mixer on order, and more to come as and when Of course, now I need a 12u rack case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spacehog26 Posted October 1, 2008 Members Share Posted October 1, 2008 If it's all mic'ed, wouldn't you need 3 mics? Dry, L, and R? Yes, although I tend to use four (SM57 and E606 on the dry cab, SM57's on each side of the wet one) and then use my little submixer (Mackie DFX6) to send a stereo feed to the desk, and a feed to my in ear monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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