Members Mikeo Posted December 17, 2014 Members Share Posted December 17, 2014 sweet I even loved the acoustic 1 mic cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted December 18, 2014 Members Share Posted December 18, 2014 This is a primo song, hands down. So in all humility, I do have some things to say about the drums, take 'em or leave 'em. There's a little swing in both the guitar part and the vocal. The drum groove is quite straight on the grid. Probably you want to retain intensity in that drum groove - understandable and I agree - but I don't think a little syncopation/swing in the groove would hinder that. I'm not talking about making it "swing" at all - just something like the way Ringo plays Lennon's "Mother", but a bit more intense. The drums need to come in grooving with what's already been laid down rythym-wise, and just take it up and make it big, not be quite so different in feel. If you want, shoot me a mix without the drums and I'll stick something in there to illustrate, just a few bars would be more than enough. Hard to describe verbally.... nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted December 18, 2014 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2014 For what it's worth I didn't use any grid at all for this one... completely avoided pro tools and used Adobe audition which doesn't actually have one.... also I just physically played these drums in on my drum machine with no timing correction. I admit. The patterns become more basic as I'm just hitting them in live but I am surprised that they sound gridded. Just had a relisten to mother and it's pretty straight all the way through. Maybe I should send you a clip to illustrate your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted December 18, 2014 Members Share Posted December 18, 2014 Well, I'm not explaining myself too well. Shouldn't post so late at night...didn't mean to say it sounds mechanical or quantized 100% or anything. And the Lennon/Starr example is not the best example to use - Ringo does stick in some hits later in the song which parts were what I had in mind....but most of it is pretty straight. Yeah, if you're interested, send me something - but if not, you've still got a fine workup going. I'm always on a fence about whether to give this sort of advice since I think I listen more like a jazz fan than a pop/rock/alt fan and probably go on about stuff most pop/rock/alt types could care less about. It's only when I hear something in my head regarding a track I really like that I tend to speak up about drum parts. Anyone else on this? On my idea that the drum could use a bit of swing/syncopation to mesh better with the original groove set by the guitar and vox? nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tbry Posted December 19, 2014 Members Share Posted December 19, 2014 Anyone else on this? On my idea that the drum could use a bit of swing/syncopation to mesh better with the original groove set by the guitar and vox? nat whilk ii yes,the drum was distracting...the groove was a bit overwhelmed. I am not good enough to produce or instruct but I do hear things and I thought some light acoustic drumming would fit nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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