Members 1001gear Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Still 3 + 3 + 2 here. lol Actually I'd been having trouble getting forums to open and this is the first I've got all the way through to a post box lol. So check one two ... Two against three the first three then one two three one two repeat. You can modulate to half time when the girl goes into the long notes - gotta check again. But anyway if you just go 3 + 5, you get mostly downbeats and no confusion. Actually what you're doing will expand your sense of rhythm so it's not a complete waste of time although trying to stay in 3 IS crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted October 14, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 That's what I typed earlier So it is what you wrote I don't thing that its because you didn't type the ands, its just that I didn't click with how to make it fit But now I do, yay Thanks! GaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Skooey for'm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted October 14, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Actually what you're doing will expand your sense of rhythm so it's not a complete waste of time Oh, it's totally not a waste of time, its completely valuable as you say: expanding my sense of rhythm ... that's why I'm not letting it go till I get it Now I have a way I can play it that is working (the 4 way), I'm trying to look at it the 3+3+2 way. Here's what I haven't clicked with for this: are this 3+3+2 beats all at the same speed? To me the obvious answer is "it can't be". So then I guess you're counting against the guitar notes like this: One two three One two three One two three Onnnne Twooo One two three One two three One two three Onnnne Twooo ... IE the +2 part is creating the gap between the three notes? The problem this creates for me is knowing how long the gap to the second low E is. The advantage of counting in 4 (with ands for me at the moment ) is that it predicts exactly where that second E is coming without guessing or needing too much feel of that (comparitively) long gap. Are there some clues about this that I'm not seeing, or am I completely misunderstanding? Thanks!! GaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 Oh, absolutely all the same value. Notice the arithmetic - all total 8 beats. Different groupings is all. Those 3 groupings : 6+2, 5+3, 3+3+2, are all the same feel with different allusions to detail. You can reverse those numbers, go through all the permutations for that matter, for a wide array of different "time changes" all in 4. If finding the count value is confusing, count in 8 like I said. It repeats every 8 beats for 12 times then goes back to 6 for the guitar on out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted October 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 So for any one of your grouping suggestions, the second note of the bridge is still on "two and" ... it's just that you count the third note as "one" not "four"? Is that right? GaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 Kinda. Write the guitar part as dotted quarters. The third note is still beat four or One two three etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonPhillips Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 ^^ Thanks for this, I've been looking for 'best way to defrost steak' for ages ^^ Reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted January 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 reported (I was just wondering where this thread went, we've come back to this song so I need to remind myself about it, very convenient ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonfinn Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 To me it feels like 6/8 then 4/4 for the slower part. The common link between them is the 8th note pulse. Groups of 3 for 6/8, then groups of two for the 4/4. Feel changes, pulse does not. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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