Members Kriegsemann Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 Thinking of getting a DL4. Is the expression even worth it? and don't turn this into a DL4 vs DD20 thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iwantpedals Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 a lot of the guys like it because you can use it to control the feedback while playing so you can get mad oscialltion or whatnot, then be able to control it easily. same thing with delay time knob. i don't have it, and i don't plan on getting one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kriegsemann Posted October 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 does it only controle feedback? Or is it assignable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iwantpedals Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 assignable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kriegsemann Posted October 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 shweeeet great, another bunch a money I gotta set aside for gear. Thanks for the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members losergeek Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 i find it invaluable. get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iwantpedals Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 just out of curiousity what do you use it for soundwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kriegsemann Posted October 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 I havn't got one yet. It will be for delays (of course) and noisey/ambiance, since apparently I can make it do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 Essentially, you can set up two very different "versions" of the same delay model (which is the one thing you can't alter)- you save one setting with the expression pedal in the "heel down" position, then rock it forward, make your adjustments to any parameters (other than the delay model) and save it again. This means that as long as you stick within the limitations, you can have six saved sounds instead of three, or you can control feedback, delay time etc. The pedal does not go through a range of values from one setting to the other, so you can't use it as a continuous controller (like a wah wah). One problem is that you can get "spaceship" noises as the delay time adjusts when using the pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members desertlimosine Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 i use it mostly in looping mode, so i can fade out the loop at any time with my foot, just by pressing the toe down. I also have it so i can have two settings within each delay effect:short delay > long delay w/modulation reverse delay with 10% wet > 100% wetetc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cosmos Posted October 28, 2005 Members Share Posted October 28, 2005 I was thinking about getting one for a long time, and finally got one a while ago. Used it 3 times and got fed up with it. The thing is, I use the tap function a lot. Which means that when you change the preset by tapping and then use the expression pedal, it automatically goes back to the old tempo that it was set to. If I change the tempo and want to add more feedback for example, I don't want the tempo to change also... That's the main reason I'm not using it anymore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 i just bought 2 bespeco volume pedals as my line 6 one broke under my foot & i'm planning to have another DL4 before too long. $45 shipped for 2 exp. pedals is A-OK ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 definetly a must have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAtak83 Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 Originally posted by preservation i just bought 2 bespeco volume pedals as my line 6 one broke under my foot & i'm planning to have another DL4 before too long. $45 shipped for 2 exp. pedals is A-OK ! hey were you get that deal from , i've been going crazy trying to find some cheap 2 bespeco's, as i need one for a regular volume and one for my ps3. I already have one for the dl4 and its great , makes it versitile .. quick question , what is the max seconds on these delays , on the dl4 ? just seems dd20 is so much longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 i just found an Ebay seller that had a store with 2 Bespecos left. i just did a search on Ebay for "bespeco pedal". 20 bucks a pop. bingo bingo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 so how are those bespecos, preservation? did you get the vol/exp or just vol? anybody have other suggestions for good solid, dependable EXP pedals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnemyofSilence Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by desertlimosine i use it mostly in looping mode, so i can fade out the loop at any time with my foot, just by pressing the toe down. How do you set this up in Loop mode? From the manual it seems that you've gotta save it with the switches, which in loop mode function differently. But I could've swarn I've seen people use the expression pedal in loopmode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gearhunter Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by desertlimosine i use it mostly in looping mode, so i can fade out the loop at any time with my foot, just by pressing the toe down. I also have it so i can have two settings within each delay effect: short delay > long delay w/modulation reverse delay with 10% wet > 100% wet etc... Thanks for the loop fade tip. I've mainly been using the expression pedal with the analog echo, with the heel down in a nice usable echo,and the toe down set for oscillation madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweeker50 Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Kriegsemann Thinking of getting a DL4. Is the expression even worth it? I find the expression pedal invaluable. Without it, the DL-4 would just not be worth the pedalboard space. Every preset has a heel/toe expression setting that's factory set. The three user presets become that much more controllable with the expression pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Tweeker50 I find the expression pedal invaluable. Without it, the DL-4 would just not be worth the pedalboard space. Every preset has a heel/toe expression setting that's factory set. The three user presets become that much more controllable with the expression pedal. huh?so, in addition to your presets, each mode has its factory-determined useage of the EXP pedal? so each of the 16 modes has a useage assigned plus your user presets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gearhunter Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy huh?so, in addition to your presets, each mode has its factory-determined useage of the EXP pedal? so each of the 16 modes has a useage assigned plus your user presets? That would be a correct statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Gearhunter That would be a correct statement well that's neat. i still think they need to add manual mode and more presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gearhunter Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy well that's neat. i still think they need to add manual mode and more presets. What do you mean by manual mode? Creating your own delay Models? I wish it had the memory to store created loops,that you could recall later,like the Boss Loop Station. But the Loop Sample still is my favorite part of the DL-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Gearhunter What do you mean by manual mode? Creating your own delay Models? I wish it had the memory to store created loops,that you could recall later,like the Boss Loop Station. But the Loop Sample still is my favorite part of the DL-4. manual mode is where you can turn the knobs turn the effect off without it automatically returning to a preset when it's turned on again. every damn digibox does this except the line 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gearhunter Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Oh,I gotcha. That would be nice to be able to tweak,bypass it and return to it with out saving,especially since theres only 3 spots to save a good patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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