Members Squier Fat Telecaster Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Which cheapie pedals should I try? Thinking of getting all three Dan-O FAB pedals or maybe the behringers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 unless u are flat broke but really need something, I wouldn't waste my money on either. A few more bucks and you get something else! Just my 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 for fuzzbox's sake, the wonderful quote from Keith Barr (president & cofounder of MXR, founder of Alesis) regarding the invention of the Phase 90, "....i sat down and figured out how i could make the absolute cheapest phase shifter possible." so, with that script phase 90 in mind, good -- no, {censored}ing GREAT for Dano & Behringer. go get 'em all. some folks have no issues with the price of their gear, as long as it does what it is supposed to do (in front of large paying audiences). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by L6Sguy for fuzzbox's sake, the wonderful quote from Keith Barr (president & cofounder of MXR, founder of Alesis) regarding the invention of the Phase 90, "....i sat down and figured out how i could make the absolute cheapest phase shifter possible." so, with that script phase 90 in mind, good -- no, {censored}ing GREAT for Dano & Behringer. go get 'em all. some folks have no issues with the price of their gear, as long as it does what it is supposed to do (in front of large paying audiences). for my sake:confused: no need to. I know what to avoid and what not to. Behringer will never make anything new or innovating, just plain ripoffs, but at lesser quality. Like I said, good if you're flat broke but otherwise a pointless buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grob-bucket Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by fuzzbox Behringer will never make anything new or innovating, just plain ripoffs, but at lesser quality. The B control stuff doesn't look like a ripoff and the rotary encoders on the V amp were a great innovation that addresses a serious shortcoming on the POD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by fuzzbox for my sake:confused: no need to. I know what to avoid and what not to. Behringer will never make anything new or innovating, just plain ripoffs, but at lesser quality. Like I said, good if you're flat broke but otherwise a pointless buy! According to your gear clips, you used a rat pedal; how was that an innovative non-ripoff of a DS-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by grob-bucket The B control stuff doesn't look like a ripoff and the rotary encoders on the V amp were a great innovation that addresses a serious shortcoming on the POD. Rotary effect is hardly a Behringer invention just because it's not available on a POD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by TheDarxide According to your gear clips, you used a rat pedal; how was that an innovative non-ripoff of a DS-1? 1 the rat was before the ds12 they are so not similar sounding (rat=fat/warm - ds1=stiff/cold)3 the clip was a modified rat (i don't use it and was to help someone getting a Santana tone without a cranked MK1)4 if you wanna hear cheap gear listen to the "Angus medley". That was recorded with a Smokey cigarrette pack amp miked with a sm58 using a $125 squire strat:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by fuzzbox 1 the rat was before the ds12 they are so not similar sounding (rat=fat/warm - ds1=stiff/cold)3 the clip was a modified rat and 4 if you wanna hear cheap gear listen to the "Angus medley". That was recorded with a Smokey cigarrette pack amp miked with a sm58 using a $125 squire strat:D I thought the Rat was '80s and the DS-1 was '70s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by TheDarxide I thought the Rat was '80s and the DS-1 was '70s? the 1st DS1 was ~ 84/85 I believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by fuzzbox the 1st DS1 was ~ 84/85 I believe! Nope... http://www.bossus.com/sitelets/classics/ds1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Squier Fat Telecaster Posted November 8, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 has anyone tried the Dan-o FAB pedals? they get good reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Can't say I've seen the Behringers around yet, although if they're half decent, then the Acoustic DI and Octaver have my name on them. I've got a FAB Distortion- it can sound a little brittle with some amps- it likes my Laney SS amp, which is quite dark, Marshall-y and "british" sounding, but my H||H and my Twin, both very bright amps, bring out a papery edge to the sound. You can dial it out though, with a little tomfoolery on the pedal's tone control. It's quite selective about guitars too- it sounds quite bland with my Tele, doesn't like my Jazzmaster at all, but works brilliantly with my Squier Strat. The FAB is VERY reactive to your guitar tone- I played a whole set with my Strat through the FAB -> Wasabi Delay -> H||H at church recently (about an hour's music at least) with the pedal on, riding my Strat's volume for drive levels. I tried the FAB last night with my new Valve Junior, and the jury is still out- same sort of problems- it doesn't quite sound "real", just a little too thin. That said, the Valve Junior is quite a "rude" amp, and sounds pleasantly rough and ratty. I don't think this does the FAB any favours. It's also the only amp I've tried so far that actually makes my DS-1 sound good, so it might finally see some action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grob-bucket Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by fuzzbox Rotary effect is hardly a Behringer invention just because it's not available on a POD! I was referring to the illuminated rotary encoders that display their true position when changing patches. A great idea which I have only ever seen on Behringers V-amp and B-control products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by english_bob Can't say I've seen the Behringers around yet, although if they're half decent, then the Acoustic DI and Octaver have my name on them. GAK sell them english bob dude, check out my thread: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1038784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by TheDarxide GAK sell them english bob dude, check out my thread:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1038784 Thanks dude. I did a Froogle search today and found various other places that have them. Piedog have them from about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by english_bob Whereabouts in the UK are you? 20 miles south of Milton Keynes. Work in Buckingham. Don't think the MK sound control has any, but i haven't been for a while. I mailed ordered from GAK, I've been meaning to get more but the couriers are arse, and GAK won't ship to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzbox Posted November 10, 2005 Members Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by TheDarxide Nope...http://www.bossus.com/sitelets/classics/ds1.html I guess both were made in 78 so why would you assume Rat was cloning DS1 and not the other way around if in fact anyone was doing it. Could be they came out at the same time, and to me they don't have much in common anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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