Members zachary vex Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 how annoying. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm Song sites face legal crackdownBy Ian Youngs BBC News entertainment reporter Guitar tabs and other musical scores are widely availableThe music industry is to extend its copyright war by taking legal action against websites offering unlicensed song scores and lyrics.The Music Publishers' Association (MPA), which represents US sheet music companies, will launch its first campaign against such sites in 2006. MPA president Lauren Keiser said he wanted site owners to be jailed. Guitar licks and song scores are widely available on the internet but are "completely illegal", he told the BBC. Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective". Bitter battles The move comes after several years of bitter legal battles against unauthorised services allowing users to download recordings for free. Publishing companies have taken action against websites in the past, but this will be the first co-ordinated legal campaign by the MPA. The MPA would target "very big sites that people would think are legitimate and very, very popular", Mr Keiser said. "The Xerox machine was the big usurper of our potential income," he said. "But now the internet is taking more of a bite out of sheet music and printed music sales so we're taking a more proactive stance." Music publishers and songwriters will consider all tools under the law to stop this illegal behaviour David IsraeliteNational Music Publishers' AssociationDavid Israelite, president of the National Music Publishers' Association, added his concerns. "Unauthorised use of lyrics and tablature deprives the songwriter of the ability to make a living, and is no different than stealing," he said. "Music publishers and songwriters will consider all tools under the law to stop this illegal behaviour." The campaign comes after lyric-finding software PearLyrics was forced off the internet by a leading music publishing company, Warner Chappell. 'No alternative' PearLyrics worked with Apple's iTunes, searching the internet to find lyrics for songs in a user's collection. "I just don't see why PearLyrics should infringe the copyright of Warner Chappell because all I'm doing is searching publicly-available websites," PearLyrics developer Walter Ritter said. "It would be different if they had an alternative service that also provided lyrics online and also integrated [with iTunes] like PearLyrics did. "But they don't offer anything like that at all." Warner Chappell were unavailable for comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachary vex Posted December 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 obviously, the reason they waited until the infrastructure for the websites was quite complete is that they want the websites to collect money for them, and turn over all advertising profits. i wonder if because they waited so long, they've lost some legal standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 Next up they'll have robots hovering over street corners with miniguns, waiting for someone to start whistling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vere Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 as far as tab, didn't this already get fought out? "tab is for academic study only" the tab sites might have a problem from the advertising, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members godard Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 That's lame as hell. Just about everything I've learned about playing guitar I got from playing tabs I found online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marcus Dahl Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 The music industry is just greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jamison Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 I didn't think it could get worse, but clearly I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IAmAScientist Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot Next up they'll have robots hovering over street corners with miniguns, waiting for someone to start whistling. +1111111111111111:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Poopsicle Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 Originally posted by Marcus Dahl The music industry is just greedy. Ding! Ding! Ding! Folks we have a winner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 end result... next generation of guitarists will have better ears. Nothing like throwing a beattles album on and figuring them out for your selves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Poopsicle Posted December 9, 2005 Members Share Posted December 9, 2005 Originally posted by Brian Marshall end result... next generation of guitarists will have better ears.Nothing like throwing a beattles album on and figuring them out for your selves. With that kind of logic the Man should take away hydro and running water, turning us into a race of incredible survivalists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted December 10, 2005 Members Share Posted December 10, 2005 Didn't we already go through this with all that OLGA stuff like 8 years ago? I thought they had given up on it. I always figured that since most tabs are simply worked out by ear and put on the internet that this case was crap. Half of the tabs on the internet are wrong anyways. If its an official transcription from an tab or music book then thats a different story. But how is somebody figuring out a song by ear, tabbing it and sharing it with others any different than if they guy figured out the song and went around teaching it to tons of people? Lyrics I'm not so sure about, you could probably make the same argument as I did with tabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IAmAScientist Posted December 10, 2005 Members Share Posted December 10, 2005 Originally posted by Wilbo26 ...Half of the tabs on the internet are wrong anyways.... Half? Try like 99% of them. I usually look up a tab, play it, realize its wrong, then figure out the right way to play the song just by modifying the incorrect tab. 1/100 tabs are actually correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted December 10, 2005 Members Share Posted December 10, 2005 Haha well I went with a safe estimate because I haven't checked out every single tab on the net. I usually use tabs as a basic guideline if I'm having trouble figuring out a song, usually just pure laziness. If I'm that lazy I'm sure as hell not going to go out and buy a 25 dollar tab book just to figure out some song I heard on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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