Members Anal Log Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I'm just wondering, those of you who chose to use some of your pedals in the effects loop, how do you do it? 1. Run two extra cables back to your amp. Pros: You can see your effects, use tap tempo on Delay, adjust settings without leaving your board, everything is in the same place. Cons: Increased signal length 2. Use a device such as the Monkey FX Otter Shocker. Pros: Minimal signal length. Still have control of your effects. Cons: You lose tap tempo, unless you run a seperate pedal as well. (providing the pedal you're using supports that), two different 'control centers' for changing settings on the fly. 3. Run short leads and have the effects near your amp. Pros: Minimal signal length. Cons: Two different pedal boards in two different places. Could make for some fancy footwork. 4. Don't use FX Loop, run them all in front. Pros: 'Normal' signal length, everything in one place. Cons: Some effects may not be utilized to their full potential. 5. Some other way that I haven't thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I don't use the FX loop - my amp has practically no pre-amp dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axeymoron Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Another option is to use a Midi controlled switcher like GCX or GRX4 and use a midi floorboard. Rack your pedals and place the rack near your amp. The only long cable you deal with is the midi cable between the foot controller and the switcher. Price $400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 That's covered by number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rob Eadgbe Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by Anal Log 4. Don't use FX Loop, run them all in front. Pros: 'Normal' signal length, everything in one place. Cons: Some effects may not be utilized to their full potential. Personally, I think it more a case of not using my amp to it's full potential. Once you've committed to running your pedals into the front of your amp though, you can use virtually any amp that gets a clean sound and still get "your tone". I've bought a couple of great sounding clean amps and use pedals to get all my dirt and I haven't looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axeymoron Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot That's covered by number 2. The otter shocker is very cool. A remote relay system is different than a midi based system, so I figured that I would offer an alternative to the concept of remote pedal control. Midi is what I use, as it allows for a combination of pedal effects routing, rack effects control and, amp feature control in one package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitownTerror Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 My amp doesn't have an effects loop (Fender Bassman 100). I'm a dinosaur, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by Rob Eadgbe Personally, I think it more a case of not using my amp to it's full potential. Once you've committed to running your pedals into the front of your amp though, you can use virtually any amp that gets a clean sound and still get "your tone". I've bought a couple of great sounding clean amps and use pedals to get all my dirt and I haven't looked back. werd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackba Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I use an effects loop if I got one. The cables are short for practice and I use longer ones to get the pedal board on the front of the stage for gigs. Effects loops are a bit of a pain with the extra too cables, but they are worth it IMO. Especially if you are using on board amp distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 i use option 3. however, when I get back to gigging, I will use option 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by Axeymoron The otter shocker is very cool. A remote relay system is different than a midi based system, so I figured that I would offer an alternative to the concept of remote pedal control. Midi is what I use, as it allows for a combination of pedal effects routing, rack effects control and, amp feature control in one package. Aye - if you have rack units too then MIDI offers a lot more control in one package. Essentially, though, the GCX loop systems are the same sort of thing, only a bit more clever inside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jet Bycraft Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I use the effects loop on my amp. I run mt ADA Flanger, Rocktron Intellifex LTD, Digitech 1900 and my Digitech 7.6 Time Machine in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThirdPole Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 TC electronic G-Major in the loop ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightysasquatch Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 My Boogie amp has a parallel FX loop with a blend control, and I have my MagicVibe in the loop dialed in as 75% effected signal and 25% dry signal, and it sounds heavenly. It sounds good in front of the amp, but in the FX loop it sounds even better. I connect it to the loop via two 6" Gold Monster Cables, and it sits on top of my amp. It is my only pedal, so it also lets me run my SG straight into my amp with a 12' Monster Gold Cable and with the high quality cables, short leads and the pedal being true bypass, I get a very good & clean signal path. I have a bad leg, so I sit while I play, and I just reach over and activate the pedal by hand (I'm pretty quick at it). I am really happy with my tone......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yek Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I use MIDI (19" Intelliverb in the loop) because there's more than just switching on/off. But I like the concept of the OtterShocker when the loop would contain just pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anal Log Posted December 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 MIDI has huge benefits, patches, etc. I read on here that most people use their DD-20's in their effects loops, which lead to this question, because it's the sort of pedal you want infront of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris Nuccio Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 Most of my amps are too old to have them. So I don't even bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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