Members pos69sum Posted January 29, 2006 Members Share Posted January 29, 2006 need help with my reverb situation. my pedals/amp are in my sig. i love my setup, it's great for classic rock and jazz. for clean sound i mainly use compressor and delay, for dirty sounds i mainly use compressor, fulltone fulldrive2, and delay. sometimes i like a touch of verb on the cleans and dirties, so i switch my holy grail on. i notice that when the holy grail is on i get a low background humming, which gets louder the more you dial up the verb. cables are george l's. i am considering taking the chorus pedal or tremolo pedal off the chain, since they get the least use, but i'd like to keep them there because i do use them sometimes. any ideas why i'm getting this humming sound w the holy grail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danut Posted January 29, 2006 Members Share Posted January 29, 2006 Make sure you power it up from a dedicated power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted January 29, 2006 Members Share Posted January 29, 2006 the holy grail can get quite noisy when you dial in more then 12 o'clock settings especially on "hall". it was always quite "acceptable" for me until last year it really got worse so it's humming/hissing very badly in any setting so you even can't hear the playing through it very well... i prefer the sound of the holy grail to the boss or digitech verbs... when it would be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pos69sum Posted January 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 it does the same thing when it's on a dedicated power supply. i only use 'spring' and i notice the humming even when it's at 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members parns2112 Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 my experience...i had the same exact problem...but when i used the EH adapter that it comes with, problem solved...i hope that helps you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members canucker1981 Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Mine is noisy sometimes. But my wiring in my house isn't the greatest. When I play with it at a nicely wired venue no problems. I think the Holy Grails are just very picky when it comes to power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zooey Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 The compressor is probably magnifying the hum. Either that, or you have dead-silent amps. Most of my amps have a self-noise that is much louder than that of the holy grail, so I don't notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pos69sum Posted January 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 i tried using the EHX adapter that came with it - same hum. i tried switching the outlet everything plugs into, same deal. my amp's a vox ac30, i wouldn't say it's silent but it's relatively quiet and has a standby mode. i'm really thinking of ditching this thing and getting a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members canucker1981 Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by pos69sum i tried using the EHX adapter that came with it - same hum.i tried switching the outlet everything plugs into, same deal.my amp's a vox ac30, i wouldn't say it's silent but it's relatively quiet and has a standby mode.i'm really thinking of ditching this thing and getting a tank. Tanks are expensive. I would check out a Line 6 Verbzilla or a Digitech Digiverb first. Both great reverb pedals. The only reason I stick with the Holy Grail is that it is by far the best sounding spring reverb pedal on the market. Kinda sucks that the Flerb setting is the dumbest thing I have ever heard a guitar pedal do in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pos69sum Posted January 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by canucker1981 Tanks are expensive. I would check out a Line 6 Verbzilla or a Digitech Digiverb first. Both great reverb pedals. The only reason I stick with the Holy Grail is that it is by far the best sounding spring reverb pedal on the market. Kinda sucks that the Flerb setting is the dumbest thing I have ever heard a guitar pedal do in my life. can you post your setup? the spring reverb did sound awesome before i when i had a more minimal setup. but i've seen people running an even longer chain than me and they get no hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 My Holy Grail is completely silent at any setting. Hum could be caused by a poor ground at the jack solder connection. I noticed that by spinning the cable ends around inside the unit while rearranging pedals loosened the locking rings on the jacks and caused the jack to spin 180 degrees inside the unit. Make sure the unit it plugged into the same outlet as your amp to avoid ground loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members canucker1981 Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 My Tele>One of several ODs(Bad Monkey, Lil Leo, Micro Amp)> Maxon Comp> Maxon Phase> Memory Man> Holy Grail> 62 Brown Deluxe. Sometimes I'll just thrown in a DOD Bi-Fet or a EH Pulsar reissue. I haven't noticed the noise changing at all when i use less pedals or more pedals, true-bypass or buffered pedals. It seems very random. I have times where I can turn the reverb up to full and get almost no hum, other times its too noisy below noon. Its the only reverb ive had that sounds kick as into an overdriven amp and after an overdrive pedal. It only does spring obviously(hall being just a bigger spring sound like an old ampeg) but it does it so well with the harmonic overtones that I can't let it go. One of he biggest problems is that the "hum" it creates is a really annoying one. Not really hum, more like a digital sort of zipper noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pos69sum Posted January 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 right, you can tell the holy grail noise from the ac30 hum on my rig - sounds totally digital, while the amp hum actually adds a nice dimension to the tone at higher volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhall Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Holy Grails are worth the hassels!!They sound astounding. I actually prefer them to the reverbs on both my 1972 twin and my DRRI!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by stereotypy i prefer the sound of the holy grail to the boss or digitech verbs... when it would be working. That kind of sums it up. I always get hum on my 2 Holy Grails. They each use a dedicated EH power supply, and they both have a high E hum. I don't use them anymore because I can't stand the hum Now I use an RV5 which doesn't sound nearly as good as the HGs, but it's silent and stereo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhall Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 I have and use an RV-5 too but the Grail wins in the SQ dept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by jhall I have and use an RV-5 too but the Grail wins in the SQ dept Exactly, but the Grail loses in the noise dept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhall Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Agreed indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hoerni Posted January 31, 2006 Members Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by IndofunkCity That kind of sums it up. I always get hum on my 2 Holy Grails. They each use a dedicated EH power supply, and they both have a high E hum. I don't use them anymore because I can't stand the hum Now I use an RV5 which doesn't sound nearly as good as the HGs, but it's silent and stereo. This may sound like a silly question, but does it hum with a batter? That would determine if it's a power supply issue, or a shielding issue. I'd love to take a look at one to determine what it might be. IFC, do think I could borrow one to look at (after I finish the Paneer of course)? I'll see if I can run it by one of the RF guys at work if we think it's an interference problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pos69sum Posted February 1, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2006 less hum w a battery, but there's still a hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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