Members ck3 Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 I am currently in search of an analog envelope filter pedal. The ideal option would have multiple modes, which would include notch filtering. I am vaguely familiar with the Electro~Harmonix Tube Zipper and have noticed that Subdecay and Antelope FX may be releasing something along these lines soon, but am not aware of any other options. Please enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BmoreTele Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Studio Electronics ModMax Filter, I think. most of the others I can think of are rack units.http://filters.muziq.be/type/filter/notch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PFDarkside Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 I'm waiting on the Subdecay before I move forward (unless I succumb to the Moog) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by BmoreTele Studio Electronics ModMax Filter, I think. most of the others I can think of are rack units. http://filters.muziq.be/type/filter/notch I forgot to metion that I once owned a Modmax Filter and did not have a positive experience with it. This unit offered me plenty of great features, but it oscillated too easily with the settings that I preferred, had an excessive output level with its overdrive setting, popped loudly when bypassed/engaged, and triggered unpredictably with a clean guitar signal. I am familiar with the website that you posted and gave it a gander last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by PFDarkside I'm waiting on the Subdecay before I move forward (unless I succumb to the Moog) Have you seen the Antelope FX equivalent of this filter? Brian may have some stiff competition from the other Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 The Lovetone Meatball is still available from www.dinosaural.comwww.lovetone.com/meatball.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by StompboxMan The Lovetone Meatball is still available from www.dinosaural.comwww.lovetone.com/meatball.html With the present exchange rate, this pedal is $560.90 US before shipping, VAT, etc. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PFDarkside Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by ck3 Have you seen the Antelope FX equivalent of this filter? Brian may have some stiff competition from the other Brian. No I haven't... linky?What the hell, I don't even play stuff that I need an envelope filter for, but the Subdecay clip just did something for me. Are there any good filters like that with expression pedal inputs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by ck3 Have you seen the Antelope FX equivalent of this filter? Brian may have some stiff competition from the other Brian. I think they are different enough. I am starting to work on the circuit board as we speak, and i think it will fit in a the smaller package. I have whittled it down to 9 knobs, and i came up with a way to blend modes.I have experimented with a notch mode, but not 100% sure it will be on the production version, although a simple mod with some off board wiring would fix it.My new house has kind of kept me from getting this thing done, but the last 3 weeks i have been working on it quite a bit.I actually experimented with getting rid of the vactrols, because they are causing an ROHS issue, but none of the solutions sounded as good, so im back where i started. I will simply wait for an exemption for the vactrols, or just not sell them in europe.And it also looks like it may be a little less expensive than i thought to produce... So that should translate in to a lower retail price than i thought.Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members endo23 Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 I always have to pop into these threads and say that the CHUNK SYSTEMS Agent 00Funk Mark II, despite its unwieldy name, is the best-sounding envelope filter I've ever played through... it doesn't have a notched filter mode or a bunch of different options other than your standard "Down/Up" switch, but again, the tone is killer. (I have owned a Mutron III, Meatball and EMMA Discombobuator in the past-- none of them were as easy to use and as satisfying as the Chunk.) That said, I'm VERY psyched about the Subdecay filter, as it sounds like it has some pretty wild options-- so, depends on what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by PFDarkside No I haven't... linky? What the hell, I don't even play stuff that I need an envelope filter for, but the Subdecay clip just did something for me. Are there any good filters like that with expression pedal inputs? Scroll down a bit for pics:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1116051&perpage=20&highlight=pedal%20news&pagenumber=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by Brian Marshall I think they are different enough. I am starting to work on the circuit board as we speak, and i think it will fit in a the smaller package. I have whittled it down to 9 knobs, and i came up with a way to blend modes. I have experimented with a notch mode, but not 100% sure it will be on the production version, although a simple mod with some off board wiring would fix it. My new house has kind of kept me from getting this thing done, but the last 3 weeks i have been working on it quite a bit. I actually experimented with getting rid of the vactrols, because they are causing an ROHS issue, but none of the solutions sounded as good, so im back where i started. I will simply wait for an exemption for the vactrols, or just not sell them in europe. And it also looks like it may be a little less expensive than i thought to produce... So that should translate in to a lower retail price than i thought. Brian Good to hear that about the price. I just did another visual comparison of your filters and it would appear that the Subdecay unit is much more feature-laden. I was trying to find the thread with some preliminary Subdecay Filter pics in order to bump it, but the darn thing seems to have mysteriously disappeared in the last hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 how about EL CheapoI dont own it but have been looking at them lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by fusionid how about EL Cheapo I dont own it but have been looking at them lately I had an XSW for a while. It was a decent sounding pedal (albiet digital) and was perfect for feedback loop applications. However, it sometimes created volume drops and required its own power supply (to prevent ground loop noise issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PFDarkside Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by ck3 I had an XSW for a while. It was a decent sounding pedal (albiet digital) and was perfect for feedback loop applications. However, it sometimes created volume drops and required its own power supply (to prevent ground loop noise issues). Can you expand on the feedback loop use? I've got an E13 Truely Beautiful Disaster that I hardly use... Only an Ibanez Tone-Lok Chorus/Flange from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PFDarkside Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by ck3 Scroll down a bit for pics: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1116051&perpage=20&highlight=pedal%20news&pagenumber=3 Oh, cool... and being the Phaser junkie that I am the Antelope phaser looks awesome too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by ck3 Good to hear that about the price. I just did another visual comparison of your filters and it would appear that the Subdecay unit is much more feature-laden. I was trying to find the thread with some preliminary Subdecay Filter pics in order to bump it, but the darn thing seems to have mysteriously disappeared in the last hour. http://www.subdecay.com/proto.htmits the first link up at the top... it is going to look much different than that however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by PFDarkside Can you expand on the feedback loop use? I've got an E13 Truely Beautiful Disaster that I hardly use... Only an Ibanez Tone-Lok Chorus/Flange from time to time. Each mode had different results. There were some that merely erupted into various uncontrollable squeals once their evelope shift was triggered. A few of them would oscillate like old school synths and produce random vowel sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by Brian Marshall or just not sell them in europe. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ck3 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by Brian Marshall http://www.subdecay.com/proto.htmits the first link up at the top... it is going to look much different than that however. I liked the last couple of sounds that you were able to produce in the clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Brian Marshall Posted May 21, 2006 Members Share Posted May 21, 2006 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm pretty sure if tubes can get exemptions, vactrols will too, eventually. We'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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