Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 what makes it do that? is that a case of defective wah or defective fuzz, or just mismatch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 you need a buffer read this http://area51tubeaudiodesigns.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=001&Product_Code=buffer&Category_Code=cat002 foxrot also makes a device of the same type cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 when I put an analog echo in between the problem disappears. so i guess the buffers there are adequate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 yep, your pedal is buffering the signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 do you know what that means, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 It means it goes through a buffer. A buffer presents a high input impedance and a low output impedance. It isolates stages and drives signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 great analysis. can anyone tell my why one fuzz pedal might be more susceptible to squeal than another? the one I have that squeals is designed for maximum distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 I suspect it's down to sensitivity to input impedance. Fuzz Faces, for instance, are more susceptible, and also do that cleaning-up-with-the-volume-control thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HMCMedic Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot I suspect it's down to sensitivity to input impedance. Fuzz Faces, for instance, are more susceptible, and also do that cleaning-up-with-the-volume-control thing. Yup! The thing to do is get a Barber Tone Press and stick that right after your wah and place your fuzz pedals after the compressor, it takes a bit of a tap dance but if I am using wah and fuzz at the same time my Tone Press is on. I would even make the statement that the one pedal everyone in the world needs is the Barber Tone Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Have you tried doing what I did, just inserting an echo pedal instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by HMCMedic Yup! The thing to do is get a Barber Tone Press and stick that right after your wah and place your fuzz pedals after the compressor, it takes a bit of a tap dance but if I am using wah and fuzz at the same time my Tone Press is on. I would even make the statement that the one pedal everyone in the world needs is the Barber Tone Press. YEP, there are many ways to do this. You can also use a DOD Bi-fet. I also use a compressor to change the fuzz response. Another obvious option is to place the fuzz after a buffered pedal (alas, not a true bypass) when this one is off. If you "like" the tone after a buffered pedal then your problem is solved. I heard some people doing that to smooth out a big muff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teahead Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by Vatican Have you tried doing what I did, just inserting an echo pedal instead? The only problem with this, is the fact that between wah & fuzz isn't really the natural place to have a delay. So while the buffer is fixing the problem, you're compromising the effect. You may think differently than I do and that's cool, but listen to the delay pedal's performance when it is before & after the fuzz. Which one do you prefer? The Foxrox buffer does an excellent job, as does putting a comp between the wah & fuzz. Since a comp would most often be used in this position, you don't lose anything but the squeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 When wah makes fuzz squeal!.....NEXT on FOX! ~MkF!"Shoot the duece!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by Teahead listen to the delay pedal's performance when it is before & after the fuzz. Which one do you prefer? I actually like it before. I find that the echo has a better defined sound, cause it's quieter. I like the better definition, and I think the analog echo darkens it enough as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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