Members Bassified Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Not really a backup amp, but more of a pedal/modeler or some sort. I'm looking for a light back up. I was thinking of the SansAmp GT2 through PA as a backup if my tubes fail, but what difference would a pedal/modeler through PA do? For example: SansAmp GT2 through PA VS Line 6 Podxt Live! through PA VS Pedal (ie. Guvnor) through PA Which gets better results for tone? Not versatility....because obviously the modeler has everything. But as far as a few decent tones to get you by a gig if your main rig fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I was wondering this same thing. People who are playing small clubs, or are doing short sets to open for a bigger band, holla back. Are you bringing a backup? Is it another amp, a modeler, sansamp, no backup at all? How do you set it up? Do you take that rig through the soundcheck too? What about monitors? To answer your specific question, you'll be pretty happy with a some flavor of PODxt through the PA. I have gigged with an xt pro, and it takes my entire board pretty well, with the exception of the SHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 nah i just use my pedalboard and my pro jr. My backup rig would be a spare set of tubes and my keeley bd2 in my backpack hehe. Worst case scenario, my singer plays acoustic and i play his electric rig. Thats NEVER happened tho, and i've never had my rig go down on me. (knock on wood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by wacopacco nah i just use my pedalboard and my pro jr. My backup rig would be a spare set of tubes and my keeley bd2 in my backpack hehe. Worst case scenario, my singer plays acoustic and i play his electric rig. Thats NEVER happened tho, and i've never had my rig go down on me. (knock on wood) So if your rig went down, you'd take the time to replace the tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gorebuc Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'd probably wanna just have a Sansamp and, if my amp went out, I'd stick it at the end of my chain. Then, I can still use all my pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by hbar So if your rig went down, you'd take the time to replace the tubes? if it was a power tube then yes, takes maybe 2 minutes max. If it was a preamp tube then no. i'd look for another option. Again i've never giged with a backup in the 7 years i've been playing out professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ronzo II Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 THe cheapest and easiest backup I've found is a Behringer GI100 direct box, with a built-in cab simulator. I bought it so I could use it at church for both bass and guitar, and the more I use it, the more uses I find for it. $30 US. Normal: guitar or bass -> pedalboard -> amp head -> GI100 -> speaker cab | PA Backup: guitar or bass -> pedalboard -> GI100 -> PA Very transparent with the cab sim off, and the cab sim is halfway decent, as cab sims go, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xacalus Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 When this happen i just use my guitar and my pedalboard, first i put the TC Electronics SCF preamp around 8, my guitar has a piezo so for the clean sound i mix the piezo and the magnetics pickups, and when i need overdrive, crunch i use the magnetics with the fulltone fulldrive 2, and that's it...and i can get almost the same tone that my mesa DC-5 delivers, of course with less headroom and power. In my pedalboard i have this: Boss DD-6 Line 6, DL4 Ibanez DE-7 TC Electronics SCF (Stereo Chorus Flanger) Boss PH-3 Vox Wah (Modifed by Rudy Pensa) Fulltone Fulldrive 2 Copilot Effects Boost-Fuzz Boss RC-2 Roland GR-33 Synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 I have a backup amp, but I also have a Sansamp GT-2 on my board. That's easier than a modeler because I can still use all my pedals the same way. No need to worry about presets. I just put the GT-2 at the end of the chain and plug it into the PA. Not ideal but would get through a gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by wacopacco if it was a power tube then yes, takes maybe 2 minutes max. If it was a preamp tube then no. i'd look for another option. Again i've never giged with a backup in the 7 years i've been playing out professionally. If it was something else, you'd be screwed. I had a jack go bad a few weeks ago which made the amp worthless. Never lost a tube on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted November 16, 2006 Members Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF If it was something else, you'd be screwed. I had a jack go bad a few weeks ago which made the amp worthless. Never lost a tube on stage. theres countless things that 'could' go wrong at a gig, you cant have a backup for everything can you? I'll definately look into the beringer sansamp copy as a backup, that seems like a good idea. But again, i've never had an issue, i take great care of my gear and i test everything before i take it out. I definately put it through it's paces. It is however better to be safe than sorry. This thread has me worried:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted November 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yeah man...baclk up stuff iis important. The SansAmp is pretty cool, but is there anything else cheaper and works well? Because in the end of the day, it's still a backup so something that is good is enough right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bassified Yeah man...baclk up stuff iis important.The SansAmp is pretty cool, but is there anything else cheaper and works well?Because in the end of the day, it's still a backup so something that is good is enough right? Anything *better* than a sansamp means more real estate, more effort to set up, and more effort to haul around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i51423 Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 I don't play out with backups. If I've ever had a problem, there's almost always someone there willing to lend you an amp or a guitar. It may be foolish, but I could never afford to bring a backup. I'm about to score an old Peavey Renown combo for free, so I guess I'll start bringing it to gigs just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 Something like the Micro-Cube or a Johnson J-Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HMCMedic Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 A Vox Pathfinder with a mic on it works great, pretty cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 um, a Smokey amp can do the backup job just fine. you wont find much smaller, or easier to operate. the lacking of an fx loop may bother some, but if one's rig has already died, all bets are off anyways. just plug your amp's spkr(s) into the smokey, mic it thru the PA, and continue as normal. fits in a shirt/jacket pocket, and with proper speaker placement, can be heard even on a loud stage. sort of a no-brainer, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted November 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 I might think about the SansAmp GT2. I can use that as a distortion pedal for my solid state amp as well just to fool around with. That way, I don't have to buy the PodXT Live for so much more money. Does this work? Guitar -> pedalboard -> PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bierball Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 SansAmps sound great direct, but I'd go with my Tri-OD which has switchable sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members killyridols Posted November 17, 2006 Members Share Posted November 17, 2006 Been gigging a classic 50 head for 6 years. Its pretty beat, never bring a backup. No problems yet (the thing seems bulletproof). If i did though, i'd probably get one of those behringer direct boxes, and run my board through that to the PA. Seems like a cheap and effective solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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