Members bluesboy Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I've been curious about these for a few years now, and I finally picked one up on ebay for what I consider to be a reasonable price. Anyone here use these, or have used them? How would you describe the sound? Did you like it, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I made one for real cheap. It's almost done. I'll report back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jay3265E Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I had one for a short time. I wasn't all that impressed with it. The OD was hairier than what I like. Not necessarily in a bad way but in a different way. I got it for a reasonable price then sold it for a nice profit. I don't think that I ever had the intention of keeping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I had one for a short time. I wasn't all that impressed with it. The OD was hairier than what I like. Not necessarily in a bad way but in a different way. I got it for a reasonable price then sold it for a nice profit. I don't think that I ever had the intention of keeping it. There's several clones of it now, right? Isn't the Tonefactor somethingorother a Red LLama for $120? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesboy Posted February 22, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 well... i figure even if i dont like it I can box it up and keep it for a few years, and then resell it and probably make a killing. From the reviews I read though, it should be a pretty nice pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesboy Posted February 22, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I made one for real cheap. It's almost done. I'll report back! where did you learn to do this? I might like to try someday just for fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 well... i figure even if i dont like it I can box it up and keep it for a few years, and then resell it and probably make a killing. From the reviews I read though, it should be a pretty nice pedal. -1. You're killing the pedal market singlehandedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I've played a clone (Pharaoh Amps Rodeo Drive) - horrid pedal IMO. I hope it wasn't an accurate clone for your sake... This thing probably wasn't cheap being a WH - do you not know what it sounds like or are you just taking everybody's vote on it? If I was going to plunk down that kind of scratch on a pedal, I'd be damn sure I liked it before I plunked down for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesboy Posted February 22, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I've played a clone (Pharaoh Amps Rodeo Drive) - horrid pedal IMO. I hope it wasn't an accurate clone for your sake... This thing probably wasn't cheap being a WH - do you not know what it sounds like or are you just taking everybody's vote on it? If I was going to plunk down that kind of scratch on a pedal, I'd be damn sure I liked it before I plunked down for one. Ive heard clips, and tom petty uses one.. I like his tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ive heard clips, and tom petty uses one.. I like his tone What Petty song has a RL on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ha. Don't listen to the naysayers. I have one and this thing sounds great. Apart from all the Way Huge hype. It's a nice cross between OD and fuzz. Like a hairy OD. Very special tone. It can do huge amounts of boosting to the frontend of your amp too. It cleans up very well with the volume knob. It's a very nice and original circuit that doesn't sound like anything else. If it sounded that bad, there wouldn't be countless clones and schematic floating over the intarweb. It's a matter of taste of course, but it is a very nice pedal IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ha. Don't listen to the naysayers. I have one and this thing sounds great. Apart from all the Way Huge hype. It's a nice cross between OD and fuzz. Like a hairy OD. Very special tone. It can do huge amounts of boosting to the frontend of your amp too. It cleans up very well with the volume knob. It's a very nice and original circuit that doesn't sound like anything else. If it sounded that bad, there wouldn't be countless clones and schematic floating over the intarweb. It's a matter of taste of course, but it is a very nice pedal IMHO. Original? Wasn't it copped from a diystompboxes.com design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 Original? Wasn't it coped from a diystompbox.com design? I don't think diystompbox.com existed when the red Llama was created in the early 90s. It's based on an 70s Craig Anderton design published in some old electronic magazine. Anyway, what I meant by original is that no other pedal sounds close to that one to my knowledge. It's not a modified 808. It's not a rat. It's not a big muff etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 22, 2007 Members Share Posted February 22, 2007 I don't think diystompbox.com existed when the red Llama was created in the early 90s. It's based on an 70s Craig Anderton design published in some old electronic magazine. Anyway, what I meant by original is that no other pedal sounds close to that one to my knowledge. It's not a modified 808. It's not a rat. It's not a big muff etc. etc. Ahh..that's where it's from. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 the red llama is a clone of the Craig Anderton Tube Sound Fuzz. the schematic is in his book that was published decades ago. the Tonefactor Mule has a little more gain than previous versions of the circuit. its also one of the best dirt pedals i've ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lip Smackers Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 I seriously wouldn't be surprised if all the clones that have magically appeared are a direct result of the schematic posted on diystompboxes.com. It would be nice to think that whoever drew it up was receiving a few donations considering he saved cloners the trouble of having to buy a real one to reverse engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 where did you learn to do this? I might like to try someday just for fun... I bought the book that the Red Llama circuit was originally from, Craig Anderton's "Electronic Projects for Musicians." Then i bought the Shin Ei kit from www.generalguitargadgets.com. Then I got the big muff clone from www.buildyourownclone.com. And i found a perfboard layout to build the red llama clone somewhere online. It's really simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vigor&kandor Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 I built one, and it sounded good. Mine was hissy though. I have heard that other clones have been hissy aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iodine74 Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 http://www.tonefactor.com/proddetail.php?prod=Mule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesboy Posted February 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 cool guys, thanks for all the info... i dont have alot of free time right now, but i will in a few months, and trying to build a pedal is something i might like to try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love the Red Llama. It's easily my favorite overdrive of all time. There are definitely a lot of people who don't like it, but many of them are using humbuckers, which I don't think sound quite as good with this circuit as single coils. I love the way it cleans up when you roll back your guitar's volume knob...There's a ton of volume on the volume knob, so turn that up a little louder than you normally would, put the drive up at around two-thirds or three-quarters, and roll back your guitar's volume to get a nice chimey clean sound that really kicks on the dirt when you turn it back up. Here's my Red Llama #11 next to a couple of my clones: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members #16 Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love the Red Llama. It's easily my favorite overdrive of all time. There are definitely a lot of people who don't like it, but many of them are using humbuckers, which I don't think sound quite as good with this circuit as single coils. I love the way it cleans up when you roll back your guitar's volume knob...There's a ton of volume on the volume knob, so turn that up a little louder than you normally would, put the drive up at around two-thirds or three-quarters, and roll back your guitar's volume to get a nice chimey clean sound that really kicks on the dirt when you turn it back up. Here's my Red Llama #11 next to a couple of my clones: You did such a good with those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 You did such a good with those! I have to give props to Kirk and Connie at www.pedalpartsplus.com for the base enclosures. The powdercoat is so much more durable than Rustoleum, and a good base coat ends up looking so much nicer in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members #16 Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 I have to give props to Kirk and Connie at www.pedalpartsplus.com for the base enclosures. The powdercoat is so much more durable than Rustoleum, and a good base coat ends up looking so much nicer in the end. Looks sharp. Who did the silk screen OR is it a slide on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted February 23, 2007 Members Share Posted February 23, 2007 Slide on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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