Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 I just finished work on a dual output loop ordering pedal that allows 14 combinations of loop order (+ bypass) for 4 loops. I'm naming it "The Labyrinth." You can see it at the bottom of this pic. It does not shut off any of the loops like a traditional bypass looper, it just rearranges their sequence. It's very useful for experimenting with my EHX pedals. CombinationsA>B>C>D>output 1 onlyA>B>D>C>output 1 onlyB>A>D>C>output 1 onlyB>A>C>D>output 1 onlyC>D>A>B>output 1 onlyC>D>B>A>output 1 onlyD>C>A>B>output 1 onlyD>C>B>A>output 1 onlyA>B>output 1 and C>D>output 2A>B>output 1 and D>C>output 2B>A>output 1 and C>D>output 2B>A>output 1 and D>C>output 2A>B>output 1 and A>B>output 2B>A>output 1 and B>A>output 2Bypass Any suggestions on which effects I should put in each loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 Looks pretty cool, but that board just looks awesome :phil: Who / what is your avatar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 Looks pretty cool, but that board just looks awesome :phil:Who / what is your avatar ? Thanks dangerous dan! My avatar is something I doodled in Microsoft Paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 It kind of reminds me of Patrick Caulfield's work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 It kind of reminds me of Patrick Caulfield's workWow! I'd never heard of Caulfield before; but I just checked his stuff out online, and I love it! Thanks for turning me onto it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 This is interesting. Could you explain how the buttons work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 is this designed for a two amp setup? i thought you had a multi-looper with a seek-wah style switching sequence between each loop going on! imagine the noise... "fzzzzswooshKCCHHdadadadadada"... or even "KCCHHswooshdadadadadadafzzzz" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 This is interesting. Could you explain how the buttons work?I built this so I could experiment with FX chain reordering without having to unplug cables and power supplies. As we all know, a fuzz into a phaser sounds very different from a phaser into a fuzz, etc.CombinationsA>B>C>D>output 1 onlyA>B>D>C>output 1 onlyB>A>D>C>output 1 onlyB>A>C>D>output 1 onlyC>D>A>B>output 1 onlyC>D>B>A>output 1 onlyD>C>A>B>output 1 onlyD>C>B>A>output 1 onlyA>B>output 1 and C>D>output 2A>B>output 1 and D>C>output 2B>A>output 1 and C>D>output 2B>A>output 1 and D>C>output 2A>B>output 1 and A>B>output 2B>A>output 1 and B>A>output 2Bypass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 9, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 is this designed for a two amp setup? i thought you had a multi-looper with a seek-wah style switching sequence between each loop going on! imagine the noise... "fzzzzswooshKCCHHdadadadadada"... or even "KCCHHswooshdadadadadadafzzzz" Yes, this has 2 outputs; but only 6 of the 14 combinations use the second output. Still, that's more than an ABY box does.What's a "multi- looper with a seek-wah?" That sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted August 9, 2007 Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 So it's an order changer basically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 9, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 So it's an order changer basically? Correct. Example of a basic setup: A: MicroSynth B: Big Muff Pi C: Flanger Hoax D: Deluxe Memory Man Using the Labyrinth, you can footswitch between the following combinations: MS > BMP > FH > DMM BMP > MS > FH > DMM BMP > MS > DMM > FH MS > BMP > DMM > FH and flicking the toggle switch down will allow you to footswitch between these combinations: FH > DMM > MS > BMP DMM > FH > MS > BMP DMM > FH > BMP > MS FH > DMM > BMP > MS or break them up in stereo using the Mono/Stereo footswitch, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted August 9, 2007 Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 I think that's pretty neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 9, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2007 I think that's pretty neat! Thanks Melx I call it "milking all the sonic possibilities from your FX" as conveniently as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 That's insane. Awesome board btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THeLoveGun Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 hahaha awesome. I totally dig the Blue Memory Man... *tears in my eye* I'm currently finalizing my artsy fartsy board. There's a little dark boost blues section VS the Synthy Nintendo section VS Industrial Flying KicK section. Oh yeah then there's a funk organ section too... and I need 2 more pedals to compete the "project". Ugh...CABLES CABLES CABLES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted August 23, 2007 Members Share Posted August 23, 2007 price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iodine74 Posted August 23, 2007 Members Share Posted August 23, 2007 I dig it, and actually could use something like that... or at least something very much like that... Props Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 23, 2007 price?Because I'm not a master builder, I won't be able to sell this thing. But if I could find a master builder who liked the idea/design, I would happily collaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted August 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 23, 2007 hahaha awesome. I totally dig the Blue Memory Man... *tears in my eye* I'm currently finalizing my artsy fartsy board. There's a little dark boost blues section VS the Synthy Nintendo section VS Industrial Flying KicK section. Oh yeah then there's a funk organ section too... and I need 2 more pedals to compete the "project". Ugh...CABLES CABLES CABLES!!! The cables on my board are insane. I have friends who give me their broken cables to use as scrap parts so I can build my own. It would be too expensive otherwise. Stores charge more than $15 for a 1' cable I love your descriptions of the sections on your artzy fartsy board. What fx are you using for each? I got to know what an "industrial flying kick" setup is composed of.The 4 knob DMM is not an easy box to work with. The repeats are really dirty, and I'm not yet convinced that an alignment will even fix that. I've heard that the SAD1024s are just dirty chips. But it definitely gets a 'vintage' echo. It sounds great when doing the staccato arpeggios (Edge, Gilmour stuff), but it sounds like mud when doing volume swells. I just bought a 5 knob DMM for cheap on eBay, and it is so much cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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