Members konsole Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Hello there, Any one know of any overdrive pedals that accurately replicate a tube clipped waveform? I'm wanting to know if there is already an an overdrive which can do this before I get my hands dirty and my breadboard full! Thanks,Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members konsole Posted September 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 You see - I have tried one of those and I wasn't really convinced. I wish there was a diagram of the clipped waveform! That would sort things right out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I think the problem is that it's not about the clipping at any particular moment in time. That's where modellers fall short. The real response of a tube amp changes over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members konsole Posted September 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Yes, I see what you mean. Frequency response and harmonic content are the key things here - it's all about getting those 2nd, 3rd and 4th harmonics in place. I think that the tube based overdrives could do it, if they ran them off of a higher voltage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AndersonTech Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 The best I've ever used was the Womanizer from www.damagecontrolusa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JMPMarshall Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Buy a rack mount Chandler Tube Driver. Since it has a bias knob you can run the tube really {censored}ing hot so the harmonics are all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members konsole Posted September 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ah yes, the Womanizer does look killer. I'm not looking into rack mount units really. I just want some inspiration before I have a crack at creating something that really does the "tube thing" well. I've got myself a huge bag of different FET's which I'm about to start fiddling with to see if I can create some authentic tube tone I'm going to kill the Tube Screamer once and for all with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ah yes, the Womanizer does look killer. I'm not looking into rack mount units really. I just want some inspiration before I have a crack at creating something that really does the "tube thing" well. I've got myself a huge bag of different FET's which I'm about to start fiddling with to see if I can create some authentic tube tone I'm going to kill the Tube Screamer once and for all with this one LOL!! Good Luck!, personally i'm not a fan of the Tubescreamer...whatever you do make sure it has more gain that that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jackpotjewell Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 On the Blackstone page they have some good diagrams of wave clipping, that might be useful for you.LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spentron Posted September 7, 2007 Members Share Posted September 7, 2007 There are so many misconceptions about this subject. I expect a ton of distortion pedals come very close to some tube waveform (which one?), except the ones they try too hard to to make sound "smooth" like tubes, for which the waveform is too rounded. The tube sound has more to do with how the character of the input makes it through to the output (in this respect your triple overdrive may be advantageous), and how the distortion progresses dynamically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninjaaron Posted September 7, 2007 Members Share Posted September 7, 2007 Well, if you use a Univalve as a pre-amp, that does the trick. 100% real power tube saturation coming out at line or instrument level, with no need for a speaker load. That's what I do, with delay and 'verb after it and all. If you want to turn it into a pedal, you'll need a line selector, I guess. That's not really the cheap route. Keeley, ZVex and a few other boutique manufacturers claim to have put the 'cranked stack sound' inside of pedals. I don't know how they perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members your name here Posted September 7, 2007 Members Share Posted September 7, 2007 This sounds like an amp. Best distortion pedal I've ever tried. I love mine...Check it out here:http://www.himmelstrutz.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members konsole Posted September 7, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 7, 2007 There are so many misconceptions about this subject. I expect a ton of distortion pedals come very close to some tube waveform (which one?), except the ones they try too hard to to make sound "smooth" like tubes, for which the waveform is too rounded. The tube sound has more to do with how the character of the input makes it through to the output (in this respect your triple overdrive may be advantageous), and how the distortion progresses dynamically. I'm looking specifically at 12AX7 type preamp waveforms (Sharp clipped at top, rounded at the bottom). I know what you mean - tube overdrive to me is all to do with those sweet harmonics, backed up with that similar clipping pattern. That Blackstone page explains it well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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