Members rushfan Posted October 16, 2009 Members Share Posted October 16, 2009 Personally I see the majority of outsourcing as a simple end-run around human rights, living wages, and environmental laws. China neatly sums up all these lovely concerns in one giant package. We are enabling bad actors in the fields of human rights and environmental devastation by bestowing upon them "most favored nation" trading partner status. We are also enabling them to decimate our productive capacity and ultimately make us dependent upon them for goods and indebted to them based on the imbalance of trade. We are enabling transnational corporations to short-sell our standard of living and pull the bottom out of our wages and bust our trade unions. By forcing the workers in "free world" nations to compete with virtual slave labor in the decidedly "not free" world of China, both sides ultimately lose. The only winners here are: 1: The Chinese government, which now sees itself as a nascent superpower and is only just beginning to exercise its formidable military might in what will undoubtedly become a new era of imperial hegemony 2: The transnational corporations, which see themselves as above the law and as the defacto rulers of the planet Excellent post . And a good reason why we ALL should give a {censored} and stop buying cheap {censored} at Wallmart. Doing so is only cutting our own throats.Until our government puts heavy trade tariffs on Chinese goods, this viscous cycle is going to keep making it worse for us and better for the 2 parties you've listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armitage Posted October 16, 2009 Members Share Posted October 16, 2009 Welcome to capitalism. Welcome to supporting Communist countries. They just love taking your money and your jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tape Posted October 16, 2009 Members Share Posted October 16, 2009 its not that we should stop freetrading with china or the like, but that these things need to be super regulated, inspected and open to the public. so that changes can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ItchyFingers Posted October 16, 2009 Members Share Posted October 16, 2009 Personally I see the majority of outsourcing as a simple end-run around human rights, living wages, and environmental laws. China neatly sums up all these lovely concerns in one giant package. We are enabling bad actors in the fields of human rights and environmental devastation by bestowing upon them "most favored nation" trading partner status. We are also enabling them to decimate our productive capacity and ultimately make us dependent upon them for goods and indebted to them based on the imbalance of trade. We are enabling transnational corporations to short-sell our standard of living and pull the bottom out of our wages and bust our trade unions.By forcing the workers in "free world" nations to compete with virtual slave labor in the decidedly "not free" world of China, both sides ultimately lose. The only winners here are:1: The Chinese government, which now sees itself as a nascent superpower and is only just beginning to exercise its formidable military might in what will undoubtedly become a new era of imperial hegemony2: The transnational corporations, which see themselves as above the law and as the defacto rulers of the planet Wow hegemony - cool word! You seem to have omitted #3... 3: The US companies who CHOOSE to outsource to Asia to lower THEIR costs. These companies don't give a flying F about your hard earned money, as long as it ends up in their pockets. You guys love to give China {censored}, but I'm willing to bet only one or two people on this board have been there and seen how it actually works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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