Members hangwire Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 Just listening to a live bedroom of yo la tengo's "cherry chapstick" and was noticing that when I had a rat or turbo Ray years ago, I couldn't get that slight fizz crackle rythym that song has. I can get it with my slightly mod'd NYC big muff where I have a little clean blended in with the dirt so it got me thinking about where these 3 pedals overlap in gain and tone? More specifically if there was a continum of the three, where on each can you cop tone from the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PatrickF Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 Not too sure on the Rat, but I've had a Turbo Rat and NYC Muff at the same time and I found that they had enough differences to warrant having both, but the Rat can get quite fuzzy sounding, so there's just a tiny bit of overlap, but they're really two different sounding pedals. Rat and Big Muff are what a lot of people use as their high-gain pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnrambo Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 my rat can get fuzzy but it won't sustain like my big muff. i really like the rat for lower gain driven sounds so the're a good pair to have around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 The sound you're hearing on Cherry Chapstick could be 2 Rats stacked. Or maybe he overloading the input of his amp with the 2 Rats or a Rat and something else? There really isn't much overlap between the Muff and the regular Rat, IMO. I'm not too sure where the Turbo Rat stands as I have never owned one nor played one for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members claytonjohn18 Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 muff + rat = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 muff + rat = That used to be my favorite dirt selection... now I just use a Rat with a dimed clean boost in front of it and a compressor behind it. Gives me all the saturated distortion goodness I could ever possibly need. Though the sustain still doesn't match a Muff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted November 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 but between at least the rat and turbo rat, would you say that one starts at x% on the gain of the other, or am I all wrong and that they are 2 different beasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 3, 2009 Members Share Posted November 3, 2009 but between at least the rat and turbo rat, would you say that one starts at x% on the gain of the other, or am I all wrong and that they are 2 different beasts? According to Proco it's a much more powerful version of the Rat. More gain on tap & higher output strength, and slightly scooped in the midrange; while retaining the basic voicing and filter control of the Rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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