Members Karma1 Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 I've been wanting a Roland V-Synth since they came out around 2003, but since they were originally about $2700 it was totally out of my reach at the time. I figured I'd wait a couple years and see if I could find a good deal on a used one. Yesterday I scored an absolute mint condition V-Synth (ver. 2) for $850 on Craig's List. The price was perfect because I had just sold my Triton Rack for $550 and had recently gotten my government "economic stimulus" rebate check from George W. for $300. The V will be perfect for the kind of trippy ambient electronic music I do. I was originally planning to get a Korg M3 61 key workstation, but now I'll use the V-Synth and eventually get the M3 module instead - should be an incredible combo. Now I've got to sell some other gear to afford that. I'm reluctantly selling my beloved Korg Karma and Wavestation A/D as well as some other recording and guitar gear. If any local SF Bay area forumites are interested, let me know (sorry, no shipping). Any hints, tips, or tricks regarding the V-Synth would be most welcome. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Logicat Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm not a V-Synth expert (i have the XT), but i found it to be the perfect tool for vocal stretching, in terms of making a sampled vocal phrase to match an existing groove. For this rule, it's perfect : you can sample the vocal, then assign the 'stretch' parameter control to your favorite hardware controller (i'm using a Microkontrol, i guess you will get the key-version, so no probs), and can record - as MIDI events - your 'stretching' performance in a sequencer. Then you manually correct the recorded MIDI control change values, making the sample to play faster or slower as needed, and you've your vocals matching perfectly the rest of the music...Immense !! I think this can be a very powerful tool for any kind of music (i like a lot to sample any vocal source and make it to fit the tempo of a techno groove - loads of fun !! ) Diametro : nice shot (the synths, not Woityla and that soccer player ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sergiu Muresan Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 Diametro : nice shot (the synths, not Woityla and that soccer player ) If I was american I would be loling.......but I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkShovel2 Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 Congrats! http://forums.rolandclan.info/ http://www.roland.com/V-Synth/ http://rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?dsection=d_downloads&ObjectId=538 Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members astraeus000 Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 damn.......those are just the 2 synths I've been aiming at....very nice.... except for screen saver.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 *cough thread derail hows that SQ80 astraeus cough cough ahem* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members astraeus000 Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 *cough thread derail hows that SQ80 astraeus cough cough ahem* the SQ-80 is brilliant.....I'm actually in shock at how cool it is.... Attention everyone !!! Electric Puppy does the best synth packing I have ever seen !!! Ultra-fast shipping !!! Ultra-low prices !!! BTW......is the Polaris for sale yet ??? I used to have one and it kicked ass until the membranes fried.... Now, back to the thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 used to have one and it kicked ass until the membranes fried.... I think he knows a little about that problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 I might know a little bit about that, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nice board ! Great CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 One of my favorite bands!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wetwareinterface Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 as far as tips... get a compact flash to pcmcia adapter and a 2 Gb compact flash card.dump the presets entirely and start with your own samples inside and use them as either groove loops or "instrument" samples. build up your own sounds first before you even try to use the onboard ones. save em all to the compact flash card as one large bank. you can easily restore the v-synth to factory patches (samples and all) in the global menu. now you can simply switch back and forth between your own custom sounds and the factory presets by loading from the compact flash card and later just initialising the patches to factory defaults. seriously you do not want to even try to modify the existing patches, it will frustrate you that you have no sample ram left to speak of after the factory bank is loaded and it makes it far less painful than trying to store individual patches and loading them one at a time as you will find that you loaded over the sample ram you need for another patch you wanted to use and it now sounds completely off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members bdub Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nice board ! Great CD SB RULEZ!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gribs Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 I have watched the Vsynth videos on Roland's site and listened to sounds, but I still don't completely grok the idea. It seems to me that the board is designed primarily for playing and warping orchestral and vocal sounds and in particular to put the articulation of each instrument into the hands of the keyboardist in various ways. I am not sure how this differs from the sample playing capabilities of a workstation keyboard (by any of the big 3). Is the level of the synthesis more advanced? The AP synthesis is touted as a modeling method, but it is not clear to me how that is done. There are modeling methods that use mathematical models of the instruments and also modeling methods that rely on multi-sampling and hybrids of the two. The price puts it in the range of a workstation keyboard. I guess the signal processing hardware, programming, and interface required to do whatever it does is at the same level. Frankly it amazes me how much I can get in a workstation keyboard for ~2K US. So how do you guys who own this board (or the module) use the unit? Do you use it like an uber-sampler/player/mangler compared with a workstation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Logicat Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 So how do you guys who own this board (or the module) use the unit? Do you use it like an uber-sampler/player/mangler compared with a workstation? Yes. To me, it's a special kind of sampler. The idea beyond it is not new, of course (stretching audio), but the implementation stands above the competitors.It has a VA section, maybe you knew this yet, and it sounds pretty nice (unless you're trying to emulate other analog synths' sounds), but are its sampling features that shine.Long story short : the sampling abilities of the V-Synth allow it to be used as a sound-shaping tool, rather than a bare playback machine. I never tried to shape a sampled sound on my Triton, not that one can't do it, but it's not so exciting (after all, it's a 'standard' sample-playback machine). On the XT, there is also that fantastic visual step-sequencer which spices up things - not functional as on the PEK, but fun-tastic indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Karma1 Posted October 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 Thanks for all the responses, tips, links, etc. - much appreciated!I've been checking out the link to rolandclan - excellent user group. I was able to download The V-Synth Book there - great resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomkeen Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 SB RULEZ!!!! SO MANY SB FANS IN THIS THREAD!! Great CD indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted October 3, 2008 Members Share Posted October 3, 2008 I have watched the Vsynth videos on Roland's site and listened to sounds, but I still don't completely grok the idea. It seems to me that the board is designed primarily for playing and warping orchestral and vocal sounds and in particular to put the articulation of each instrument into the hands of the keyboardist in various ways. I am not sure how this differs from the sample playing capabilities of a workstation keyboard (by any of the big 3). Is the level of the synthesis more advanced? The AP synthesis is touted as a modeling method, but it is not clear to me how that is done. There are modeling methods that use mathematical models of the instruments and also modeling methods that rely on multi-sampling and hybrids of the two. The price puts it in the range of a workstation keyboard. I guess the signal processing hardware, programming, and interface required to do whatever it does is at the same level. Frankly it amazes me how much I can get in a workstation keyboard for ~2K US.So how do you guys who own this board (or the module) use the unit? Do you use it like an uber-sampler/player/mangler compared with a workstation? It does sample mangling like no other, the vocal designer and vocal shaping capabilities are great, and I love the VA sounds from it. The VA sounds digital, but it's flexible, and I think it sounds great. I would categorize it as a proper synthesizer that happens to also let you play back samples rather than a sample playback device. -D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wetwareinterface Posted October 4, 2008 Members Share Posted October 4, 2008 think of the v-synth as a jp 8000 with tb 303 filter emulation and d-50 waveforms and part of a jv 1010 and a variphrase sampler and a vocoder all in one keyboard and you'll start to get the idea. you can streatch and pitch shift samples in realtime and mix that with a single osc jp8000 or d-50 and run them through the jp8000's synth engine that has additional filter types even amp modeling. realtime expression via a d-beam or the xy pad. plus it has a sequencer designed for realtime playing like an arppegiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted October 4, 2008 Members Share Posted October 4, 2008 i hear sara palin likes v synth? truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 4, 2008 Members Share Posted October 4, 2008 If I was american I would be loling.......but I'm not. I think you've got it backwards. If I weren't American I'd be loling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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