Members stratocaster202 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 The rhythm tone on the song is so {censored}ing epic, are there any pedals that nail that sound? [video=youtube;455-CIgc7co] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wartoxin Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 what amp is it? that information is a place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kimme Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 [video=youtube;0Zau_a8e8mY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PunkRocker33133 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 What I was hoping this thread was about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 what amp is it? that information is a place to start. marshalls. 2203's, i believe. i've never really heard any of the marshall in a box pedals get that tone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 what amp is it? that information is a place to start. My amp is an AC15, but I already pedals that bring it to a 70s Marshall kinda place (Solidgoldfx Superdrive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LSDis4me Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 I thought this thread would be about how to get the sound of being trapped under ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conky Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Didn't they use a Marshall being boosted by a Tubescreamer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ispunk Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Didn't they use a Marshall being boosted by a Tubescreamer? Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Bingo! Really? I figured it was more distortion than OD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Harry_Manback1 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Could've sworn I read that they used Rats back in the day...maybe on Kill em All though. I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Kill Em All was definitely Rats into Marshalls. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ride The Lightning was something else because the tone is pretty different. Maybe they'd already discovered Boogies or rack stuff. I know Kirk used to use ADA MP1s back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-rey Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 My standard answer for any and all distortion pedals: The Elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 http://www.encycmet.com/equipment/jayhiseq.shtml I wouldn't bother looking at Kirk's page because he wasn't allowed to record rhythm guitars until Load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ispunk Posted June 14, 2012 Members Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hetfield, Guitar Player, October 1992Distortion always starts with the amp. Pedals just sit on top of the sound. They don't feel like a full part of it, just some fuzz on top. You can fiddle with parametric EQs and all that {censored} for days, but it still won't have the smooth distortion of an amp. The last time I used a distortion pedal was on Ride the Lightning. It was an Ibanez Tube Screamer, like Kirk uses. It really helps his solos cut through, but it puts a {censored}ty coating on smooth rhythm tones, and it was hard to not make it sound like a pedal... ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Likes Loomis Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 My standard answer for any and all distortion pedals: The Elements. It's no secret...not a big fan of this pedal. Would trade mine for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 i'm pretty sure it was tubescreamers boosting the high gain input of a 2203. Master of Puppets was the first album they did using mesas. they both used mark iic+'s on MOP, but before that was all marshalls. you can really tell. Those first couple of albums just sound so marshally to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-rey Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 Really??? I am a boosted amp dirt kinda guy (except fuzz of course), but I was blown away by the one I tried. What don't you like about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 i'm pretty sure it was tubescreamers boosting the high gain input of a 2203. Master of Puppets was the first album they did using mesas. they both used mark iic+'s on MOP, but before that was all marshalls. you can really tell. Those first couple of albums just sound so marshally to me. So should I be looking for a combination of pedals? One for the 2203 sound then a TS9 to boost it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 i don't think that would work well. if you're boosting an amp with a pedal that's one thing. but if you're boosting an amp with a pedal and then stacking that pedal with yet another pedal the result will most likely, not saying ti will sound bad, but it will probably be way different than what you were expecting. i'd just try a good, versatyle distortion pedal and/or a Marshall-in-a-box. should get you close if you have the right setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 So should I be looking for a combination of pedals? One for the 2203 sound then a TS9 to boost it? i would think so, if you can get something to make your vox sound like a 2203. that seems like a bit of a chore maybe. i don't have much experience with vox, but they seem a bit weird with pedals and pretty different from marshalls to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members big69 Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure you aren't going to get that tone with an AC15 regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 i don't think that would work well.if you're boosting an amp with a pedal that's one thing. but if you're boosting an amp with a pedal and then stacking that pedal with yet another pedal the result will most likely, not saying ti will sound bad, but it will probably be way different than what you were expecting.i'd just try a good, versatyle distortion pedal and/or a Marshall-in-a-box. should get you close if you have the right setup. you know, i think your right. they're getting that sound by hitting the tubes in the marshall with a ts. if you put a pedal in front of the vox to get the 2203 sound, then the ts will be hitting the transistors in that pedal instead of tubes, and it's just not going to be the same. it may sound good, who knows. i love stacking dirt, but it's definitely not going to be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 you know, i think your right. they're getting that sound by hitting the tubes in the marshall with a ts. if you put a pedal in front of the vox to get the 2203 sound, then the ts will be hitting the transistors in that pedal instead of tubes, and it's just not going to be the same. it may sound good, who knows. i love stacking dirt, but it's definitely not going to be the same. Sounds fair to me, so no one's made a pedal designed to cop those types of tones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lotlizard Posted June 15, 2012 Members Share Posted June 15, 2012 Radial London Bones (does a lot of other stuff too). Of course, the guitar/pickups factor into the equation as well. I tend to use JBs in the bridge. Give me a few days and I will try to post a clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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