Members Bassified Posted March 14, 2006 Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 it's that time of year again where you purchase new gear, well sorta. i play rock and i'm looking for a good 30 watt amp that sounds nice with my effects. yes i like effects, but i know not every amp gives out good distortion or works well with effects processors and pedals. specifically, i have a zoom gfx1 processor through my bass amp. which is the best amp with that processor?i just think it's still limited and wanted to have a larger sound range through a guitar amp. i have an esp ltd ec-50. my price range is anything from $0 - $225 USD. oh right, solid state only and would be nice if it had recording line out. that's why i am still considering the roland cube30 ($225). suggestions needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 14, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 actually, are there any good 30watters that have a line out or recording? that would be very useful or even to hook up to the PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted March 14, 2006 Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 What bass amp are you using and what's wrong with the sound you get from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members men's pants Posted March 14, 2006 Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hughes and Kettner Edition Blue 30R. Best amp to bugger around with effects on. Awesome cleans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted March 14, 2006 Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but good and $225 are pretty close to mutually exclusive. For a bit more you can get a used Classic 30, but $225 will get you anything from sucky to marginally acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 14, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but good and $225 are pretty close to mutually exclusive. For a bit more you can get a used Classic 30, but $225 will get you anything from sucky to marginally acceptable. a lot of people recommend the peavey classic 30, but i don't see it around often. or maybe i'm not looking hard enough. i don't know if $225usd is not enough, but most 30 watt amps fall in that range. again, i'm not looking for a 5watt - 30 watt tube amp. so tha's the main difference. what's a good solid state amp (30 watts) that is more than $225usd? i heard bad reviews from marshall, especially on distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 14, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 i never played the Marshall MG30DFX, but what attracts me the most is the line out feature. i think that's what i am trying to aim for, because that's a nifty feature i think i will need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted March 14, 2006 Members Share Posted March 14, 2006 If you are going to keep your zoom then you don't need an amp with DFX (which is the basically the same stuff again). I also don't think you should worry too much about the line out feature - you could also probably use the output from the zoom directly into a recorder. I still would like to know what bass amp you are using otherwise it's hard to know what to suggest that would improve on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by walfordr If you are going to keep your zoom then you don't need an amp with DFX (which is the basically the same stuff again). I also don't think you should worry too much about the line out feature - you could also probably use the output from the zoom directly into a recorder.I still would like to know what bass amp you are using otherwise it's hard to know what to suggest that would improve on it. oh right, well i currently have a yorkville xm100c. the effects are okay on the amp, but it's still a bass amp. one thing that's kind of annoying is that it's 100 watts and when u play guitar through it, it sounds like 120 watts. the volume is just way too much for my bedroom. the volume is close to zero, but when you have the volume at such a low notch, then the tone doesn't come out distinctively. not sure if you ever used a bass amp. but that's why u buy guitar amps for guitars. i used to be a bassist, so yeah. i assume 30 watts is what i need. small jam sessions with friends and practice in the bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 i shud go for an amp without digital effects then, cuz i really like my zoom. hmm, is roland cube digi? now i am all confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murch33 Posted March 15, 2006 Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by Bassified one thing that's kind of annoying is that it's 100 watts and when u play guitar through it, it sounds like 120 watts.That's sort of like saying "I was driving at 70 mph but it felt like 72!" If you're as limited in funds as you say you are, I'd go with a Cube. Everyone seems to like those. $225 won't buy you hardly anything. Most of the pedals on my board cost more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted March 15, 2006 Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 If it were me I'd sell the Zoom and buy a Vox AD30VT. I think the effects will be an improvement, it has the line out and it sounds pretty good. Second choice would be the Roland Cube. Try them both. BTW: Many guitarists play through bass amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted March 15, 2006 Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by murch33 That's sort of like saying "I was driving at 70 mph but it felt like 72!" A guitar will seem louder than a bass because it is pitched in "voice" part of the frequency band which your ears are more sensitive to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by walfordr A guitar will seem louder than a bass because it is pitched in "voice" part of the frequency band which your ears are more sensitive to. exactly. actually, i thought about the vox, but i think the roland is a safe choice. i dun wana sell the zoom gfx1 anyway. but if roland digi effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 what's the difference between cosm, efx, and dfx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted March 15, 2006 Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by Bassified what's the difference between cosm, efx, and dfx? Nothing really. They're just different labels for digital modelling of analogue effects. Use your ears to decide what, if anything, you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tubesteakfortone Posted March 15, 2006 Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 At your price range you can buy a all tube Peavey Bravo...25 watts 2 channel with reverb. put a new speaker and tubes in it and its as close to a JCM 800 as you can get at low wattage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 15, 2006 well i already have a zoom gf1 guitar processor. would it be a waste if i buy an amp with digital effects as well? walfordr pointed that out earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 18, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2006 Originally posted by walfordr If it were me I'd sell the Zoom and buy a Vox AD30VT. I think the effects will be an improvement, it has the line out and it sounds pretty good.Second choice would be the Roland Cube.Try them both.BTW: Many guitarists play through bass amps. the bass amp guitarists use isn't the actual bassman for bassists. there's another bass amp that is actually for guitarists and they use it for blues i heard. all bass amps give such a clean sound, and it doesn't make the guitar sound unique. i tried a guitar through yorkvilles and ampegs. they just don't sound right and the cleans are kind of disturbing. way too trebly. i think i'll just have to settle for a small amp. most likely the roland, unless there are other suggestions. so far, i am really leaning on that based on all the positivity around it. even a reconding line out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted March 18, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 18, 2006 with a tight $225usd budget, would it be better if i go used? what's a good used amp that vies 30 watts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n0fx Posted March 18, 2006 Members Share Posted March 18, 2006 Fender Deluxe Reverb:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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