Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 Details here: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/pek/ There's evidently a conversion kit available to make your all-encoder PEK a potted one, but I can't seem to find the info on this on DSI's site. I'm really considering this, because I don't care for the encoders, especially for those values that don't need it (like cutoff, for example). You go, Mr. Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 i've not heard of this- sounds potentially awesome. they're sending me some DeOxit for my PEK, hopefully that'll make the synth more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fisnotigut Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/news/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bruto Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 Nice! Not that I can afford one right now, but I'd still love to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm not sure it's worth $400 to me to convert to pots right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm not worried about that right nao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 Anyway, I think it's cool that DSI is clearly listening to their customers. Dave himself has said that he prefers encoders over pots, but is providing the pot versions now because that's what peeps seem to want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 i don't know if i'd like pots better on the PEK- i just know the encoders on mine are of poor quality. hoping the DeOxit will sort it out. encoders do make a lot of sense on synths with patch memory, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepykeith Posted November 5, 2009 Members Share Posted November 5, 2009 i don't know if i'd like pots better on the PEK- i just know the encoders on mine are of poor quality. hoping the DeOxit will sort it out. encoders do make a lot of sense on synths with patch memory, though. i just cleaned my encoders with the deoxit they sent, and it works like new. and i had a couple really stubborn encoders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stikygum Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 Same here. Just cleaned my PEK and the Deoxit works. My PEK was an uneditable mess of jumpy encoders that plain out frusterated. Now it's the synth I hoped. I will I think in the future buy different and bigger knobs for my PEK though. Not a tiny knob fan. I have just a little bit in my deoxit tube left. Free deoxit or $400 pots? I might be in the minority, but I'm with Dave. I enjoy the experience of an encoder over the pots. It's more fluid to sound programming. Pots piss me off sometimes. I do like the PE edition though, he just needed to make all the knobs silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 There's evidently a conversion kit available to make your all-encoder PEK a potted one YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarcinP78 Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 Great! That makes me want PEK now. I love the sound and now it comes with proper knobs :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 Too bad optical encoders cost so much. It would run around $1000 dlls to populate a PEK with the cheapest ones from Digikey... But they're rated for... ..............................ONE MILLION TURNS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myfriendfive Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 The next step for DSI is to make a Prophet '08 Module PE. If so, I would consider changing my module. Encoders are cool but, pots would make this modern analog synth feel more like a old school synth. This would make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frogmonkey Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 OOOOOO! I've been waiting for that. The live tweakability is greatly compromised by those encoders. I do think I'll try the deoxit first, but I imagine the encoders will step annoyingly anyway. I guess I should make sure the pots sweep smoothly before I take the plunge. I'm encouraged by reading that the conversion is easy-- I imagine it could be undone if for some reason I didn't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted November 6, 2009 Members Share Posted November 6, 2009 If it had light rings like the Lead 3 it would be great, as it it's a yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members synthman1 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 While having pots, new graphics and Bubinga end panels are nice upgrades, it would have made sense for DSI to throw in 2 more voices for a total of 6. This would have made it a Poly Evolver 2.0 rather than 1.5. Then you can play octaves with your left hand over 3 note chords with a voice to float. There should be an international law that the min number of voices for any polyphonic synth is 5 with a preference of 6-8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Used to be that if you wanted more voices on the PEK that you'd just buy a Poly Evolver Rack to chain it with. Personally, I think it would have been nice if they had offered an expansion board that would have fit inside the PEK; There's plenty of room left in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stikygum Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 OOOOOO! I've been waiting for that. The live tweakability is greatly compromised by those encoders. I do think I'll try the deoxit first, but I imagine the encoders will step annoyingly anyway. I gotta say I was dang skeptical and didn't think the deoxit would work. I bought my PEK last spring and that's why I didn't do the deoxit until now. I was too dang skeptical. Was so frusterated (even though I love the sound and flexiblity) I was thinking I will make an ultimatum to try deoxit and if it doesn't work, I'd make up my mind to sell it or look into a different method to fix the encoders. Luckily it works now after using deoxit. No more crazy jumps or steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 just got my tiny little tube of DeOxit from DSI today. however, leaving the country in a few hours, will do this next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 While having pots, new graphics and Bubinga end panels are nice upgrades, it would have made sense for DSI to throw in 2 more voices for a total of 6. This would have made it a Poly Evolver 2.0 rather than 1.5. Then you can play octaves with your left hand over 3 note chords with a voice to float. There should be an international law that the min number of voices for any polyphonic synth is 5 with a preference of 6-8! Sure, just "throw in" 2 extra voices. It's as simple as that. Besides, there's $1200 difference between the 1-voice MEK and the 4-voice PEK. That's $400 per voice for that additional 3 voices. The PEK PE is only $100 more than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whosthatguy Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Can anyone comment on whether or not the new endless encoders are indented like the Evo Desktop? Makes it so much easier to select discreet values (such as selecting a control source/destination)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepykeith Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Can anyone comment on whether or not the new endless encoders are indented like the Evo Desktop? Makes it so much easier to select discreet values (such as selecting a control source/destination)... i know the MEK ones are not, so i'd assume the PEK are not as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members synthman1 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Sure, just "throw in" 2 extra voices. It's as simple as that.Besides, there's $1200 difference between the 1-voice MEK and the 4-voice PEK. That's $400 per voice for that additional 3 voices. The PEK PE is only $100 more than the original. Its $1200 more for the voices, extra pots, extra buttons, casing/form factor, keyboard, mod wheels etc. - not just the voices. Lets put it another way, a 4 voice PEK at $1700-$1800 isnt even a consideration for many (including me). A 6-8 voice PEK could be. An Andromeda is 16 analog voices. That goes for $3000 or less. A 4 voice synth cant really be used effectively polyphonically unless your are doing 4 monophonic parts. Forget about doing serious 2 handed chord progressions. Even then, if you manage to go with something that works, you done in 1 part, 2 if you are lucky so. I would rather save the money just go with a mono Evolver if I was in the market for one. 8 voices/8 parts, reasonably priced, that's a different story. Still world rather have a rackmount option though! Connecting a PE rack is clunky 15 year old technology. Besides, there is no PE rack anymore. There should be at least voice expansion cards by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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