Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 It is so hard to remember now and we were mostly listening to combinations of amps, except for the UL which we recorded first. I dunno man... I just panned the two different tracks or each amp/mic left and right, got decent levels, and bounced to disk. What you are hearing in these clips sounds like what I just heard in the Mackies when I was bouncing these earlier today... Steve You can disregard that question. I had amps 1 and 3 mixed up because I was numbering them based on their order in the Firefox download manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 Ok, so then you got 'em right, correct? Which did you like best again? Steve #3, which I was calling #1, then #2, then #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sick Michael Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 It was pretty close for me between 1 and 3. Didnt care for 2. Probably 1 actually.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage #3, which I was calling #1, then #2, then #1. Wow... So you like the MKIV better than the 5150II... Interesting...I like the 5150II best as currently recorded, but I think with more high end, I'd like the VHT UL best...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 Wow... So you like the MKIV better than the 5150II... Interesting... I like the 5150II best as currently recorded, but I think with more high end, I'd like the VHT UL best... Steve It (MKIV) needs more top end, but I like the voicing better. It had more of a percussiveness and bark to it, which I like.The UL is at your disposal, and since it only takes a few minutes to record, we can add some presence and treble next time I'm over, and re-do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage It (MKIV) needs more top end, but I like the voicing better. It had more of a percussiveness and bark to it, which I like. The UL is at your disposal, and since it only takes a few minutes to record, we can add some presence and treble next time I'm over, and re-do it. Sounds good... I just have this feeling that there is some mix/combination of these amps that will sound amazing, but at this point, I like the individual amp clips better than the combination one we did friday...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SlyStrat Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Its not a fair race if you used a pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 Sounds good... I just have this feeling that there is some mix/combination of these amps that will sound amazing, but at this point, I like the individual amp clips better than the combination one we did friday... Steve I agree, although, I'm just wondering if it's not the MKIV (or UL, however, since it's not yours it might be "weird" ...) and the 5150, rather than all 3. But, that can only be determined by spending a good amount of time mixing and listening back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by SlyStrat Its not a fair race if you used a pedal. I think it's "fair." On a somewhat related note, I'd like to hear that TS in front of the rhythm channel of the UL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage I agree, although, I'm just wondering if it's not the MKIV (or UL, however, since it's not yours it might be "weird" ...) and the 5150, rather than all 3. But, that can only be determined by spending a good amount of time mixing and listening back. Oh, I agree. I didn't mean all 3 amps necessarily. And I agree that I should be able to get there with the 5150 and the MKIV...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SlyStrat Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Huh? The pedal changes the true tone. None or all should have a pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage I think it's "fair." On a somewhat related note, I'd like to hear that TS in front of the rhythm channel of the UL. Yeah, we should definitely try that...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by SlyStrat Its not a fair race if you used a pedal. I wouldn't see why not. I clearly stated that I used the pedal on the rhythm channel of the 5150II and frankly, the 5150II has enough gain on the lead channel to produce that tone...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by SlyStrat Huh? The pedal changes the true tone. None or all should have a pedal. It depends what you're trying to accomplish. In this case, I believe Steve is trying to find the best "metal" tone out of each amp. If it was a "what amp sounds best" then I would agree, sticking a pedal in front of one to give it an advantage would be "unfair." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage It depends what you're trying to accomplish. In this case, I believe Steve is trying to find the best "metal" tone out of each amp. If it was a "what amp sounds best" then I would agree, sticking a pedal in front of one to give it an advantage would be "unfair." Yeah, this wasn't a "which amp is better" thread. It was a which tone do you like best and match the clips to the amp thread. You could argue that the boost would make it hard to match the amps to the clips, but most people here were easily able to pick out the 5150, even with the boost...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greazygeo Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 1 and 3 sound pretty much the same on these speakers with two being only slightly different.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro No clue/don't care to guess what's what. BUT, I dig the first oneam okay with the 3rd and hate the second. I'd have to say I agree... although I know how to fix the second one...Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Steve, what were your 5150 settings on that? You remember? Also what kind of guitar and cab were you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LnTh Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 VHT5150MesaThat said, amp 1 sounds best for this clip/genre, whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LnTh Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Doh, you already gave the answers. I got all wrong But i agree that dialing plays a great role.. I dont remember who exactly (could be zapman?) had MKIV clips with somewhat similar genre i think and they kicked some major ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Megadeth7684 Steve, what were your 5150 settings on that? You remember? Also what kind of guitar and cab were you using? Sure. Here ya go:Schecter Hellraiser 7 string on bridge pickup (EMG 707) ->Keeley-modded TS-9 ->Drive - 10 o'clockTone - 10:30Level - 1 o'clock5150II ->Rhythm ChannelBright inCrunch inPre - 7.4Low - 6.8Mid - 4High - 6.3Post - 3.4Resonance - 8.2Presence - 8.5Mojave 4x12 w/G12H30s ->Audix I5 ->SM57 ->RecorderThere were two different physical guitar performances, each of which was reamped and mic'd with both mics. Performance one of each mic was panned hard left. Performance two of each mic was panned hard right.All guitars bussed to the Waves C4 using a tweaked version of Andy Sneap's posted setting, a gate for noise and then out to the monitors. Added a small room reverb and that is it.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hopeless Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by DanielRaible I would guess: 1.) 5150 2.) MarkIV 3.) VHT +1Edit: Oh damn, he already announced the results. Well, I still got it right , go me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 Sure. Here ya go: Schecter Hellraiser 7 string on bridge pickup (EMG 707) -> Keeley-modded TS-9 -> Drive - 10 o'clock Tone - 10:30 Level - 1 o'clock 5150II -> Rhythm Channel Bright in Crunch in Pre - 7.4 Low - 6.8 High - 6.3 Post - 3.4 Resonance - 8.2 Presence - 8.5 Mojave 4x12 w/G12H30s -> Audix I5 -> SM57 -> Dude, how are you going to patent those settings if you keep giving them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by Bob Savage Dude, how are you going to patent those settings if you keep giving them out? How do you know those are the real settings? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted April 17, 2006 Members Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally posted by sah5150 How do you know those are the real setting? Steve Because it was written on the Internet, and everything on the Internet is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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