Members Dimebag666 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Slash is soooooo overrated in my opinion. As with page. but they have an appeal to people which i can respect. I hate the word "feel" to describe guitarists. "Style" is probably better IMO. WTF is feel supposed to mean neway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big Hair Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 it's not a case of how quick & accurate you can play it's about what you produce at the end and whether people like it songs are more than accuracy and flashy technique, it's about feeling the song has and the vibe a player has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members men's pants Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Plays well, but highly overated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clock radio Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Random Hero He's good 'n all, but he's not exactly the greatest player ever to walk the face of the earth, yet he's adored? are you high, the guy is a total {censored}ing lamer when it comes to playing. he's adored cos he's banged every porn star that ever lived, not because of his playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SimonMagus Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Caulk Rocket See: Allan Holdsworth or Joe Satriani. Satch uses some conventional playing in a way that makes his leads seem like lyrics. Very original. On the other hand. Holdsworth makes the guitar into a different instrument, where you can tell that the notes had to be from a guitar, but how the hell did he do it?Crapton had a short prime. Angus is a riff machine, and practically wrote the book on power chords when Slash was still {censored}ting his diapers. Gilmour was a complete songwriter as well as a good guitarist, Slash isn't. His leads pretty good, but GnR had poo for riffs. They stank. Velvet Revolver does too. So... what's your point? That Slash stinks? Maybe he does, he seems really sweaty on all his live shows. Guess that means he really stinks like a pig. Or do you mean that any guitarist younger than Angus has no right to play guitar? I guess it all comes down to the point where everyone who likes Slash's music speaks in favor of him and everyone with a different music taste bashes him... Lemme tell you, I also think he's overrated. We still haven't clarified what's "overrated" actually, but I think he is. Same goes for any guitarist that appeared in the media some day, especially most of today's guitar ... *gasp* ... heroes . I bet there are tons of unknown guitarists out there with killer chops. They would be underrated then. Until they show up in the media some day I stick to Slash, the Youngs, Gilmour, Hendrix and Kossoff. Oh wait, as soon as unknown talented guitarists appear in the media they're automatically overrated! Damn... stupid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SimonMagus Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by clock radio are you high, the guy is a total {censored}ing lamer when it comes to playing. he's adored cos he's banged every porn star that ever lived, not because of his playing Yeah, and don't forget he sucked Steven Tyler's d*ck! Oh wait, that was Steven Adler I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Big Hair it's not a case of how quick & accurate you can playit's about what you produce at the end and whether people like itsongs are more than accuracy and flashy technique, it's about feeling the song has and the vibe a player has + 1000000000000 some people just don't get it........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members itcamefrom1984 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 We wouldn't even be talking about Slash if he was a 350-pound bald-headed guy from Omaha. It was all about his image: he was the heir to the Keith Richards/Joe Perry uber-cool wasted badass rocker persona, complete with a bottle of Jack, the dangling cigarette, the low-slung guitar. It was the hair, the hat, the Les Paul, and the attitude. Let's put it this way: when people can identify you in silhouette, you know you've made it. While the hair bands were raiding WalMart for cases of AquaNet and yanking whammy bars on their neon superstrats, Slash went back to the basics: a Les Paul through a cranked Marshall, coupled with a killer image. The riffs? Great. The technique? Okay. The tone? Too much neck pickup on solos. The overall effect, though? Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by SimonMagus So... what's your point? That Slash stinks? Maybe he does, he seems really sweaty on all his live shows. Guess that means he really stinks like a pig. Or do you mean that any guitarist younger than Angus has no right to play guitar?I guess it all comes down to the point where everyone who likes Slash's music speaks in favor of him and everyone with a different music taste bashes him...Lemme tell you, I also think he's overrated. We still haven't clarified what's "overrated" actually, but I think he is. Same goes for any guitarist that appeared in the media some day, especially most of today's guitar ... *gasp* ... heroes . I bet there are tons of unknown guitarists out there with killer chops. They would be underrated then. Until they show up in the media some day I stick to Slash, the Youngs, Gilmour, Hendrix and Kossoff. Oh wait, as soon as unknown talented guitarists appear in the media they're automatically overrated! Damn... stupid game. I don't think Slash sucks. I think he's very good. But, GnR was really annoying, so I don't listen to ANY of his music. Axl is ubearable, so in the end the poor songwriting does him in. I find the following to be overrated:1. Shredders (they need songwriting ability to go with it like Satch of Paul Gilbert)2. Guitar Heroes from rock bands that sell billions of records. Ok, so you can put a solo in in a top 40 hit, doesn't mean squat to me. To me, a great guitarist is not one dimensional. Music to me is a combination of:- Originality- Musicianship and Technique- Songwriting - Entertainment value Any good combination of the above elements leads to a good musician. They don't need all of them but they do need more than one. For example, some people can't play at all, but they are so creative that no cares and they end up influencing tons of artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Caulk Rocket I don't think Slash sucks. I think he's very good. But, GnR was really annoying, so I don't listen to ANY of his music. Axl is ubearable, so in the end the poor songwriting does him in. I find the following to be overrated. 1. Shredders (they need songwriting ability to go with it like Satch of Paul Gilbert) 2. Guitar Heroes from rock bands that sell billions of records. Ok, so you can put a solo in in a top 40 hit, doesn't mean squat to me. To me, a great guitarist is not one dimensional. Music to me is a combination of: -Originality -Musicianship and Technique You sure are demanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by BadRonald You sure are demanding. My browser cut off my message, see EDIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Caulk Rocket I don't think Slash sucks. I think he's very good. But, GnR was really annoying, so I don't listen to ANY of his music. Axl is ubearable, so in the end the poor songwriting does him in. I find the following to be overrated: 1. Shredders (they need songwriting ability to go with it like Satch of Paul Gilbert) 2. Guitar Heroes from rock bands that sell billions of records. Ok, so you can put a solo in in a top 40 hit, doesn't mean squat to me. To me, a great guitarist is not one dimensional. Music to me is a combination of: - Originality - Musicianship and Technique - Songwriting - Entertainment value Any good combination of the above elements leads to a good musician. They don't need all of them but they do need more than one. For example, some people can't play at all, but they are so creative that no cares and they end up influencing tons of artists. So you're saying Jack White is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by BadRonald So you're saying Jack White is a genius. I meant people like The Ramones, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urban Ghandi Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 I used to think he was over-rated until I started playing GnR songs in my cover band. It's not that what he plays is difficult, it just damned tastey!! All I know is: When you hear him play, you know it's him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members itcamefrom1984 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Caulk Rocket - coolest avatar ever! And I agree with every point you made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elric Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Random Hero He's good 'n all, but he's not exactly the greatest player ever to walk the face of the earth, yet he's adored? This is an easy one: It's because people love his band. It's a lesser manifestation of Kirk Hammet Syndrome (KHS): You know, where Kirk Hammett wins guitarist of the decade polls left and right simply because he's the "lead" guitarist of of people's favorite metal band. Only in Slash's case, it's not quite as out of whack, since Slash is truly a great stylist, IMHO, if not an amazing technician. OTOH, I think Izzy hasn't gotten enough love. Primarily due to his media avoidance and Slash's comparitively monster stage presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HWY2H377 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 i don't think Slash is overrated at all. really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by itcamefrom1984 Caulk Rocket - coolest avatar ever! And I agree with every point you made. I get that all the time now, it's kinda new. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elric Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by HWY2H377 i don't think Slash is overrated at all. really. I used to subscribe to the UK guitar mags and they all seemed to have an absolutely incurable hard-on for Slash even a year or so back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HWY2H377 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Elric I used to subscribe to the UK guitar mags and they all seemed to have an absolutely incurable hard-on for Slash even a year or so back. well, i've always been a fan and appetite is one of my all time favorite albums. i can see how people can point fingers because gnr was a stadium band or whatever and say he is overrated but they're probably jealous or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dicky sofa Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 +1Originally posted by HWY2H377 i don't think Slash is overrated at all. really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HWY2H377 Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 holy christ, richardcouch, i never noticed your avatar move until now... i must be zoning out right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members dicky sofa Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 I got it from the Vlad Clique!Originally posted by HWY2H377 holy christ, richardcouch, i never noticed your avatar move until now... i must be zoning out right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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