Members tangerine Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 In my opinion YES! I think that most of his music sounds like circus music and is really boring just like circus(I hate circus). It was the earliest records that had some good tracks on it but no record nailed all tracks on it. He got most of his fame for the concerts and laser shows and some early tracks. Now the music is to laugh at, some wannabe techno thing, what happened to the early works and the old analog synth music he became most famous for? why not continue that? I think Vangelis, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Kraftwerk, YMO is the real deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Redhotpoker Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 I only know 'Jon and Vangelis' intimately.I viewed a concert broadcast recently of Jon Anderson singing old fav. Yes songs and others, with a large chorus. He still has a strong voice. Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 Overrated in what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 I like him... He's kind of hit and miss I think, but when he's good, he's very good. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you have a career that lasts more than a couple of albums you're going to displease some chunk of your fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 Today while I did my day job, I listened to the following JMJ CD's: OXYGENE EQUINOXE MAGNETIC FIELDS ZOOLOOK RENDEZVOUS IMAGES OXYGENE REMASTERED OXYGENE 7-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted January 28, 2011 Members Share Posted January 28, 2011 Jarre is the man that got me into electronic music dont think he is overated, he is among the 2-3 pioneers of this genre but i agree that he shouldnt be doing tracks that are not his style and stay in what he can do best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ir1to0 Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Jarre is the man that got me into electronic music dont think he is overated, he is among the 2-3 pioneers of this genre but i agree that he shouldnt be doing tracks that are not his style and stay in what he can do best... What? he can, like you, do what he wants, that he has a fan base does not prclude him from trying new directions if he was rehashing his old style everyone would slam him for repeating his former glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sad Darwin Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Overrated in what way? This way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 just cause someone gets old and gets undue attention all the time... doesn't make him and his whole past bad. So what.. does McCartney suck too now?don't answer that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SynthEnthusiast Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 He isn't over rated at all,I love listening and playing his music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tspit74 Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't completely get him. I like his first two albums. After that, he just kind of went too over the top for me with his gigantic once in a lifetime event concerts and different style. Even the two albums I like (Oxygen and Equinox) aren't as good as classic Tangerine Dream and Klause Schulze albums from the same period. I 'm not an expert on JMJ at all. But I just don't get the same tension and release off his stuff. Lots of cool sounds and his gear has always been the coolest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't completely get him. I like his first two albums. After that, he just kind of went too over the top for me with his gigantic once in a lifetime event concerts and different style. Even the two albums I like (Oxygen and Equinox) aren't as good as classic Tangerine Dream and Klause Schulze albums from the same period. You see.. I guess you don't completely get him. Btw I'm no fanboy... and as a teen hearing Oxygen 8 from him first.. I liked it but really had to raise an eyebrow. Comparing him to Tangerine Dream is way off,... it's more of a prog version of Kraftwerk in my opinion. Meaning very simple melodies. Which I don't find in Tangerine Dream. Where as Kraftwerk did melody in a very robotic yet emotional way. Jarre had the same emotion but in a very spiritual way... which obviously has a more mass appeal. Hence the silly pagan concerts. On a differnt tip. I think ZOOLOOK is one of the best leftfield pop art albums ever (not the strongest genre I know) .. along with Malcolm McLaren's DuckRock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 god.. and there was once a day when I thought Kraftwerk was overrated... what I {censored}ing idiot I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tspit74 Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I love Kraftwerk. I just don't get JMJ. Maybe it's a French thing. I'll try to remember to pull his records out this week. I'll give Zoolook another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I was a big fan of his work when I was 16/17 which more or less got me upto Rendezvous. I think up until 86 all his work was classic... just beautiful music really well thought out. With Oxygene you have the beautifully worked out composite textures where a sound is composed of multiple sources, a bit of EMS triangle waves with ARP2600 and so forth.. all over beautiful Eminent sounds mixed with Mellotron... With Equinoxe its all about the sequencing and the nice bass lines with the Yamaha CS fatness.. With Magnetic fields its all about the stereo imaging and the nice use of sampling which was innovative at the time.. though quite cold sounding now I think.. With Zoolook you have fantastic production skills, the fusion of live musicians and superb sampling. One of the highpoints I think.. With Rendezvous its a revisiting of layering of sounds but with 80s synths... even some jazziness with Ron's Piece.. After this its rapidly downhill... too much reliance on synth presets, thin sounding production and poor musicality... But 10 years of quality is good I think... For Tangerine Dream its the same... past 1987 they sound dreadful... So what can you say.... the D50 and Wavestation are too blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 JMJ's use of the Roland D-50 Good demo's here if anyone is interested: http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/roland_d-50/d-50_examples.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I love this ... O6pA1N4GI2I&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 Did you notice his Steelphon-S900-Synthesizer http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/13/steelphon-s900-synthesizer-demo1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 Of course I did! I have a really bad Italian synth fetish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I was a big fan of his work when I was 16/17 which more or less got me upto Rendezvous. I think up until 86 all his work was classic... just beautiful music really well thought out. With Oxygene you have the beautifully worked out composite textures where a sound is composed of multiple sources, a bit of EMS triangle waves with ARP2600 and so forth.. all over beautiful Eminent sounds mixed with Mellotron... With Equinoxe its all about the sequencing and the nice bass lines with the Yamaha CS fatness.. With Magnetic fields its all about the stereo imaging and the nice use of sampling which was innovative at the time.. though quite cold sounding now I think.. With Zoolook you have fantastic production skills, the fusion of live musicians and superb sampling. One of the highpoints I think.. With Rendezvous its a revisiting of layering of sounds but with 80s synths... even some jazziness with Ron's Piece.. After this its rapidly downhill... too much reliance on synth presets, thin sounding production and poor musicality... But 10 years of quality is good I think... For Tangerine Dream its the same... past 1987 they sound dreadful... So what can you say.... the D50 and Wavestation are too blame? id say thats about what i feel. btw most magnetic fields is Oberheim OB-X... almost all stringy and polysynth themes. sampling was just cosmetic touches here n there. Zoolook is really a sampling masterpiece - tour de force of Fairlight ii, and Oberheim OB-Xa for polysynth parts. tho must admit i never liked the mandatory acapulco-hotel-terrace 70s themes with preset organ rhythms , on the end of albums like magnetic and rendez tho... but everything else was so damn good in those ten yrs. Oxygene and Equinoxe fall into all time electronic hall of fame. Zoolook too. i do like "Virgin years" TD tad more, but that doesn't take away anything from JMJ. id say TD went to crap much sooner than 87. Exit was last monumenthal album for me. with one exception "Le Parc" being quite solid ( the last album done with schmoeling). but in btwn those two there was lot of pseudo pop form, with solos that didnt go anywhere. still, theyre my favorite electronic band of all time, even if they only ever recorded stratosfear and force majure. and it will never change. yes im a fanboy .. well fun-middleagedgeek to be precise,. so, sue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I get what you guys are saying, but I even love Revolutions and especially, Waiting for Costeau. There's even bits of Teo and Tea that I love to listen to... like cluster said, sue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I love most of Jarre's work but am big fan of RendezVous 4 and this [video=youtube;Z_y-UZu-_Q4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_y-UZu-_Q4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 For Tangerine Dream its the same... past 1987 they sound dreadful... So what can you say.... the D50 and Wavestation are too blame? Personally, I think that the solo output of Christopher Franke, Johannes Schmoelling, and Paul Haslinger post-TD has been pretty decent. Tangerine Dream, not so much. Who to blame? You tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 atari 512st and c-lab notator, of course. and christopher franke leaving. @crhistian rock: yeah i like revolutions too. maybe not as much as early ones but it has ingenious moments as well.. that song with counterpoint btwn several analog string sequences.. tha title escapes me atm.. edit: ah its' the revolution industrielle 2. and title track is also great. ahead of its time. [video=youtube;9_x9KBExhKo] but, this is truly immortal: [video=youtube;Sj7A8SX7ccI] [video=youtube;TVI0HesmLvM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVI0HesmLvM&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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