Members girevik Posted March 24, 2011 Members Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thanks, soundwave. I'll check out the Mahler Symphony 8 soon. Debussy's Reverie puts me into a reverie - trying to learn that piece now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtrance Posted March 24, 2011 Members Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ya Mahler's 8th is great; also Der KinderTotenLieder ("songs about dead kids") is beautiful. I prefer the 2nd and 4th symphonies myself, though. Mahler's 5th is also great; the 1st, too. Really, only the 6th, 7th and 10th are difficult to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burster Posted March 24, 2011 Members Share Posted March 24, 2011 That doesn't have to be our future -- it can just be their future. I love this saying so much I'm going to use it as my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted March 24, 2011 Members Share Posted March 24, 2011 You forgot to mention that tune has almost 7 MILLION! views. AND over 20K LIKES. There are also some justin beiber comments... Damn... we all know what is our future now Rebecca Black's "Friday" is up to 43 million views. See, this is a lesson for those wanting to be famous: now, you have to be flashy in an immature way, or at least an awful way so that you can attract the snarkers. I mean, Cee Lo Green is a talented singer (honestly), but "{censored} You" is the song that got him 50 million hits. That's 50 times as much as any of his solo work or Goodie Mob work, and even almost three times as much as the one top Gnarls Barkley hit. To get hits, you must speak the language of the common people, ho ho.I will say that it's comforting that a Moonlight Sonata video also gets 30 million views, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 24, 2011 Members Share Posted March 24, 2011 Well that explains Tootin' Bathtub Baby Cousins (at 151 million and counting ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Re-Member Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hate trance, but love the Super Saw sound. I suppose it has more to do with it sounding similar to a chorus effect on a saw from the Juno 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 Rebecca Black's "Friday" is up to 43 million views. See, this is a lesson for those wanting to be famous: now, you have to be flashy in an immature way, or at least an awful way so that you can attract the snarkers. I wonder how many of those views are like mine - someone who first saw a parody (Death Metal Friday for me), then watched the original for comparison.So...the supersaw is NOT just a bunch of detuned saws? I always thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hate trance, but love the Super Saw sound. I suppose it has more to do with it sounding similar to a chorus effect on a saw from the Juno 6. Actually a strings-type pad using the supersaw + the built-in chorus in the SH-201 is quite delicious, I think. Very unique-sounding and really sits well in a mix. And I've said it before, the supersaw is an excellent wave to use when you build bell-like sounds. Supersaw + ring mod + high pitches = deliciously digital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtrance Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 No, you could do a bunch of detuned saws back in 1973 on a Minimoog, that's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SynMike Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 No, you could do a bunch of detuned saws back in 1973 on a Minimoog, that's nothing new. Supersaw is 7 detuned saw waves - from a single oscillator. Other oscillators are left over to add something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted March 25, 2011 Members Share Posted March 25, 2011 Actually it's not even that. Seven detuned analog sawtooth waves do not sound anything like Supersaw. It's really it's own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Re-Member Posted March 26, 2011 Members Share Posted March 26, 2011 Actually a strings-type pad using the supersaw + the built-in chorus in the SH-201 is quite delicious, I think. Very unique-sounding and really sits well in a mix.And I've said it before, the supersaw is an excellent wave to use when you build bell-like sounds. Supersaw + ring mod + high pitches = deliciously digital Yeah, I got the SH-201 for quadruple super saw goodness. So many people seem to bash the synth as being "thin sounding", but with the right tweaks it can practically pop ear drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purity_Control Posted March 26, 2011 Members Share Posted March 26, 2011 Supersaw on a Novation Nova was a double saw, maybe someone has done a supersaw waveform since then that is x7 but it wasn;t always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SynMike Posted March 27, 2011 Members Share Posted March 27, 2011 JP-8000 owners manual specifically states that its SuperSaw is 7 detuned sawtooth waves. You cab adjust the total spread of detuning and the volume of the 6 detuned waves (mixed) as compared to the one central wave. I guess that means JP-8080 is the same but I didn't check it's manual. The SH-201 and SH-01 say their waveform is the sound of 7 sawtooth waves heard simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Re-Member Posted March 27, 2011 Members Share Posted March 27, 2011 JP-8000 owners manual specifically states that its SuperSaw is 7 detuned sawtooth waves. You cab adjust the total spread of detuning and the volume of the 6 detuned waves (mixed) as compared to the one central wave. I guess that means JP-8080 is the same but I didn't check it's manual. The SH-201 and SH-01 say their waveform is the sound of 7 sawtooth waves heard simultaneously. Not sure about the GAIA, but the SH-201 has a knob that spreads out the pitch of the waves (it's the same knob used to control pulse width), but you can't manually adjust each wave specifically. When turned to 0, it sounds like a single saw wave, so the work around is setting up a layered patch with supersaw on all four oscillators and adjusting from there. The Korg Radius and R3 actually have a feature called "unison spread" which comes close to sounding like a supersaw, but it eats up polyphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtrance Posted March 28, 2011 Members Share Posted March 28, 2011 I've done detuned saws of all sorts, with many waves/voices, unison etc. on many synths: NONE of them sound like Roland's supersaw. It's a distinctive sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thorhead Posted March 28, 2011 Members Share Posted March 28, 2011 I've done detuned saws of all sorts, with many waves/voices, unison etc. on many synths: NONE of them sound like Roland's supersaw. It's a distinctive sound. I have heard that the JP8000 SS has resonant HP on it... Other than that it should sound like 7 saws, that are not anti aliased... Then again, what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I've done detuned saws of all sorts, with many waves/voices, unison etc. on many synths: NONE of them sound like Roland's supersaw. It's a distinctive sound.Yeah. It's one unfortunately that I don't like. If I had to do a "supersaw" sound, I would reach for the the "unison detuned" multi-saw sound you can get on the Alesis Andromeda (or for that matter, a Roland MKS-80). Which isn't quite JP-8000, but sounds more pleasing to my ears. In the digital realm I kind of prefer wavetable type sounds (like the Waldorf Q). Still, different folks for different folks, etc., and a lot of people really like the supersaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just in time for this thread:http://www.adamszabo.com/jp6k/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wwwjd Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 ...and what's the deal with "Super Saws"?? They can't saw anything... so there's nothing SUPER about it! Supersaw never impressed me. Detuned unison buried in reverb? wow? no just one of many tools... not ME, the supersaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 you don't have to bury it in reverb, and you don't have to play trance leads with it It's just a waveform, people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burster Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 you don't have to bury it in reverb, and you don't have to play trance leads with it It's just a waveform, people No. It's a... ...SUPERWAVEFORM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 only the japanese can use a name that cheesy and get away with it super jupiter super jx super jd etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 you don't have to bury it in reverb, and you don't have to play trance leads with it It's just a waveform, people Sir. Clearly you haven't read the memo. "Thou shalt maketh trance with thine supersaw or suffer the wrath", or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 only the japanese can use a name that cheesy and get away with it super jupiter super jx super jd etc etc etc I developed a system that used Hitachi Super-H chip once. They do seem fond of sticking "super" in front of their nouns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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