Members petejt Posted February 6, 2007 Members Share Posted February 6, 2007 I travelled all over Perth to try out different amps for new setup, upgrading from my crappy woofy-sounding Line6 Flextone II combo. I kept an open mind and tried a few different sorts of amps. Some sounded fairly good but didn't really cut it, not even the massive Mesa/Boogie Road King II head. I tried the Engl Screamer 50watt head, through an Engl 4x12 cab, and man that thing is bloody awesome! It had a really aggressive sound to it. It was like a Marshall on steroids, in fact the aggressiveness reminded me of how James Hetfield used his Mesa/Boogie MarkIIC+ for Master of Puppets, in a way. The presence control was excellent. I liked the reverb too, and it did a nice EQ sound, even though the EQ was shared amongst the clean and lead channels. It had a great tight bottom end and a super-thick midrange that was punchy, but not horrible honky. It has heaps of gain, I only needed to put it on 4 (11 o'clock) for super-metal-thrash-crunch. A bit more would be awesome for extra sustain for soloing. This is an awesome amp for metal. I was going to get a Laney TT50H, but after trying this amp out, even after trying out the Engl Fireball, I am firm on the decision to get this amp. It's gonna be sweet when I can buy it! These were the settings I used. In fact the amp sounds great with everything at 12 o'clock! Clean- 3 (9 o'clock) Bright- on Lead gain- 4 (11 o'clock) Bass- 6 (1 o'clock) Mid- 9 (4 o'clock) Treble- 5 (12 o'clock) Lead presence- 4 (11 o'clock) Reverb- 2 (8 o'clock) Gain- hi Lead- on Lead volume- 4 (11 o'clock) Master- 7 (2 o'clock) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enforcer Posted February 6, 2007 Members Share Posted February 6, 2007 These are wicked little machines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted February 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 6, 2007 These are wicked little machines! Thanks for the comments! Have you got this amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enforcer Posted February 6, 2007 Members Share Posted February 6, 2007 Nope but I have owned many ENGLs, and know their product line pretty well. I still own an E670 SE head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Puppetto Posted February 6, 2007 Members Share Posted February 6, 2007 Where'd you go for that? Only place I can actually remember seeing ENGL was an ENGL thunder at Zenith, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkCide Posted February 10, 2007 Members Share Posted February 10, 2007 I mentioned this before...some guy posted a KILLER metal clip years ago around here using the screamer. I don't remember his nickname though. That was probably one of the best ENGL clips I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members troublehead Posted February 10, 2007 Members Share Posted February 10, 2007 Agreed.........the Screamer is killer. But I still think the Blackmore is a big step up. The Screamer is a bit too bright/tight for me. But I still bought it twice:freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted February 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 Where'd you go for that?Only place I can actually remember seeing ENGL was an ENGL thunder at Zenith, lol. First I tried out the combo version of the Screamer 50 at Zenith. Then I went to Billy Hyde Music up in North Perth. That big new blue building, on the way to Scarborough Beach (catch the #400 bus). They had the head version as well as the Fireball. Here, I found their website. Pretty good price I reckon. Now all I need to do is find a good cab to go with it! The standard Engl 4x12 cab is pretty nice, nice tight low-end, but I'd like something with a bit more tight bottom-end thunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibanezcrille Posted March 2, 2007 Members Share Posted March 2, 2007 I'm thinking about buying an ENGL Screamer 50 Combo... petejt, did it had a lot of headroom? Do you think I can get clean sound on high volumes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nacher Posted March 2, 2007 Members Share Posted March 2, 2007 I wonder how my Screamer head didn't have much gain at all. I mean, I had gain dimed, and still couldn't get any real sustain or compression out of it. Palmmutes were just "click click" instead of thump. I felt like it had only about as much gain as your average Marshall... weird. I just couldn't get a good metal sound out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibanezcrille Posted March 2, 2007 Members Share Posted March 2, 2007 I wonder how my Screamer head didn't have much gain at all. I mean, I had gain dimed, and still couldn't get any real sustain or compression out of it. Palmmutes were just "click click" instead of thump. I felt like it had only about as much gain as your average Marshall... weird. I just couldn't get a good metal sound out of it. Really? Maybe something was wrong with your Screamer head? Or you had bad pickups in you guitar? That's sound strange, because Screamer should be a real metal monster, what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members milisha Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 If you like the Screamer, then you should definitely try the Blackmore. Last time I was at Mega Music they had one. And there's one at Musgroves as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 The Screamer is a bit too bright/tight for me. But I still bought it twice:freak: lol:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Love Tacos! Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 I Love Tacos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibanezcrille Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 How is Screamer compared to Savage 120? Savage is the only amp I have tried and it was perfect. But I don't have money for that so I will buy a combo. Fireball/Powerball are too expensive too (here in Sweden). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nacher Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 Savage is kind of a big brother of Blackmore, and Blackmore is a big brother of Screamer. Still, Savage is rather far from Screamer. I have wondered myself if there was something from with my Screamer. I couldn't get any kind of chug out of it, no matter what I did, and I have really hot pickups in my SG. Easily comparable to EMG-81 in terms of output. I did try swapping positions of pre-amp tubes etc, but nothing changed. However, the crunch channel of that Screamer didn't crunch almost at all. It was like a another clean channel, especially with my neck pickup. That was kind of odd... I did return that Screamer to the shop, and at least I never got any complaints that it would have been faulty of something. I'd say Fireball gain at 2/10 on ulta gain channel was pretty much equal to Screamer 10/10 on high gain channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibanezcrille Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 Is there other Screamer-owners that agree with Nacher? What pickups did you have, Nacher? How much volume on amp? and other settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnR102385 Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 I wonder how my Screamer head didn't have much gain at all. I mean, I had gain dimed, and still couldn't get any real sustain or compression out of it. Palmmutes were just "click click" instead of thump. I felt like it had only about as much gain as your average Marshall... weird. I just couldn't get a good metal sound out of it. Sorry to bump an old thread, but I am currently having the same problem as this guy had with his, and I have no idea what the deal is. Everything sounds good except high gain stuff:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Have you made sure that all the tubes are properly seated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnR102385 Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yes, one of the first things I tried. How could I tell if one of the tubes needed replaced? Sorry Im a t00b n00b:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yes, one of the first things I tried. How could I tell if one of the tubes needed replaced? Sorry Im a t00b n00b:( Has it always not given you enough gain or is this a new development?The only way I know of going about testing tubes is to find a new tube that you know works and swap it for the other tubes, one at a time. If it's a tube problem you'll eventually find it. Failing that, I'd suggest taking it to a tech. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Does it give you at least this much gain? http://rocksolidamps.com/mp3/Jonny Boy Screamer.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnR102385 Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Has it always not given you enough gain or is this a new development?The only way I know of going about testing tubes is to find a new tube that you know works and swap it for the other tubes, one at a time. If it's a tube problem you'll eventually find it. Failing that, I'd suggest taking it to a tech.Hope that helps. I have only had it for a week, but it has been giving me the problem the whole time. I have some spare tubes on the way, so I will give the switch out thing a try when they get here. Thanks for the tips:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnR102385 Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Does it give you at least this much gain?http://rocksolidamps.com/mp3/Jonny Boy Screamer.mp3 Not at all, and I have the gain maxed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottdh Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Not at all, and I have the gain maxed out. Same here. I had a Screamer combo and it never came close to that kind of gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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