Members j_e_f_f_g Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by maarkr i just bought an i5 Ivy Bridge and a Z77 mobo and ram for ~$370. I'm planning on using the Radeon 6790 with it and not use the built-in GPU. There are some i5's without a GPU, such as the 3350P. The "P" at the end of the model means no GPU. If you're not going to use the gpu, may as well not pay for it. Better yet in that case is to consider one of the E3 Xeons, as those are like an i7 without gpu, but priced in the i5 range, such as the 1230:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117286Like an i7, this has 4 cores with hyperthreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members j_e_f_f_g Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Originally Posted by sslow235comp which of those laptops would you get for games, hd video, and DAW? None. As I said, a laptop is all about portability, not performance, flexibility, nor reliability. For those resource-intensive tasks, I use a desktop pc, and have found laptops to be too compromising for such. If you feel otherwise, you'll have to make your own decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members sslow235comp Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 edit: This solves most everything games playable with with built-in Intel HD4000/25000 graphics:http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/in...033387.htm HD video play/editing depends on CPU more than GPU. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.phphttp://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.htmlhttp://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html DAW music production software benchmarks:http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm "Those are PassMark benchmark scores. PassMark is a benchmarking software which runs the CPU through many stress tests like read/write operations, math calculations, and graphics processing. People who run PassMark can submit the score they got with their processor so those charts are showing the average submitted scores for each processor. I wouldn't read into the overclocked processor charts much because they include mild overclocks as well as extreme overclocks, and there's no way to know how overclocked the processor was when it got the given score. If you really want to see specific scores, you can click a processor from the list and it will show the last 5 submitted scores along with information like RAM, measured speed, hard drive, graphics card, etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I accidentally the whole question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members j_e_f_f_g Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm beginning to suspect the question may be "where can I find a $500 laptop that's as powerful for resource-hungry tasks as an i7 desktop?". This is starting to veer into the same territory as questions like "Can someone recommend an 88-key weighted action electronic keyboard suitable for classical music? I also want good string, horn, and organ sounds. I'm willing to spend $100." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j_e_f_f_g Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't know your level of expertise, so I can't say whether you'll be able to assemble on your own without difficulty. Just be aware how to remove the plastic protective cap over the cpu socket so you don't bend the socket pins (and also make sure the socket frame slips under the large retaining screw when you close the frame). The i3 is not a powerful cpu. But you aren't going to get much else if your entire budget dropped to $400. If you really want a laptop, put all your money into the laptop and forget about the desktop entirely. You gain nothing by buying a desktop that's no better than your laptop. My advice is based on the fact that you can buy a more powerful desktop for the same price, so spend your money on the desktop instead. My advice is not "buy a notebook anyway, and try to squeeze out just enough money to buy an anemic desktop". That's a terrible idea. Just buy the best laptop your budget allows, and accept the limitations of that form factor. Don't a load a 32-bit OS on a system with more than 4 gig ram. Only 4 gig will be used. Win XP will not recognize a sata harddrive unless you go into the bios and set the sata controller to use legacy PATA mode. An ATX case will fit an atx motherboard. But there are newer versions of ATX power supplies. Motherboards now require v2.3 which means it should have a 24 pin (2 rows of 12) molex connector, and an 8 pin (2 rows of 4) molex for cpu power. Note that some power supplies have top-mounted (instead of side-mounted) fans. Your case may need vent holes if using top-mounted. Many new motherboards no longer have IDE connectors -- only sata. In that case, your cdrom needs to be sata. You don't need the wrist guard if you ground yourself first, and don't touch cpu pin connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 What NLE are you using? I use Premiere Pro, & the PC I was perfectly happy with last year for SD video editing has now become a doorstop. I don't think you want to consider using onboard GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by sslow235comp /// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bruto Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by j_e_f_f_g This is starting to veer into the same territory as questions like "Can someone recommend an 88-key weighted action electronic keyboard suitable for classical music? I also want good string, horn, and organ sounds. I'm willing to spend $100." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sslow235comp Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't know which NLE I'll use. whatever gets it done for free/cheapest. Not going to do much effects, maybe fade, time lapse, and add important text in case the audio ever corrputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members sslow235comp Posted November 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Bascially the charts shows CPU stregnth? The higher, the better? Are the overclockable ones OC'd for the tests? I'm confused because so many people said not to get a laptop with a i7-3632QM or i7-3630QM and that a desktop will be way stronger, but those two QMs rate so high, I think higher than even every desktop except for the really high-end i7s and XEONS. RAM's a factor, but aren't the mobile tests done with a laptop that's capped at about 8 GB ddr3 with 8GB ddr3 in it? here's CPU DAW comparisons you'll probably find usefull, but i'm refering to the other charts. http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j_e_f_f_g Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 That site uses the Passmark CPU software which tests the speed of various cpu instructions. A higher score is better. Even an i7 2600k is faster than those "high-end mobile" cpus (and cheaper). The i5 3570 isn't far behind. The chart you want is http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sslow235comp Posted December 4, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2012 just in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted December 4, 2012 Members Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yet another thread on this? Don't you think you're overthinking this a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members tim gueguen Posted December 4, 2012 Members Share Posted December 4, 2012 I'd be more worried about what software I was going to use than the differences between a dozen CPUs or whatever it is you've asked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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