Members Chrisjd Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 I am debating whether or not to get the Pro Rack G for my rack space or just go with the G-String pedal. Can anyone offer some insight as to which they think would be the better purchase? I am having a hard time understanding exactly what the differences are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Erock503 Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 the rack has 2 channels, and you can control the threshold on each, so you can have one setting for the signal in front of the amp, and a seperate setting for the loop. The rack can also be modded to stereo. GString is the pedal version of 1 channel, it has one threshold control, one set of I/O for the front of the amp, and one set of I/O for the loop. The threshold control is for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suparsonic Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 The rack version has two stages first you plug your guitar into the front then you use the second stage through your loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ragnvald Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 The pedal has less headroom. I feel I have to use an Ebtech line-leveler with mine. In the loop-stage, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Erock503 Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 The pedal has less headroom. I feel I have to use an Ebtech line-leveler with mine. In the loop-stage, that is. have you noticed that with any amps other than the Framus? I ask because I've had no issues with it on a variety of different amps, but they've all had good tube buffered loops. I do remember having issues with any pedals on the loop of the Cobra though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ragnvald Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 Well, the main point is the headroom is lower due to 9 VDC operation. Since the Cobra benefits on higher channel volumes, this will be a problem as the volume pot also works as the send. Just something to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 The Prorack has many advantages over the G-string but the better unit depends on what your needs are.Botton line is: If you're interfacing ANY other rack gear then get the Prorack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 Do you really need to spend $450 on a Decimator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 Do you really need to spend $450 on a Decimator? The Decimator is a great piece of equipment. Gets rid of hiss and controls feedback yet still allows long notes to ring out without cutting them off. There are worse ways to spend 450 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 The Decimator is a great piece of equipment. Gets rid of hiss and controls feedback yet still allows long notes to ring out without cutting them off.There are worse ways to spend 450 bucks. I know what a Decimator is/does, I have one. But spending $450 just to get rid of "hiss" is {censored}ing fail. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted January 1, 2009 Members Share Posted January 1, 2009 I actually use two ISP Decimator pedals. One in the loop, one in front. Works better than 1 G String pedal which I sent back because one threshold knob didn't work for me. The loop always had less noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I know what a Decimator is/does, I have one.But spending $450 just to get rid of "hiss" is {censored}ing fail. Sorry. Saying that it "just gets rid of hiss" is an understatement. Yeah it gets rid of hiss, but it also gates your guitar so you don't have to be jumping on the volume knob during fast break parts, and you don't have to worry about taking it out of the path during clean parts, and it won't cut off your lead notes either. Plus it is almost completely transparent so it doesn't alter your sound at all. Totally worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 One key advantage to the pedal is that you have the ability to switch it on or off easily (via your foot). This comes in handy if you like to clean up with the volume knob. The Decimator is fantastic until you lower your guitar volume... then you run the risk of your notes dying off prematurely etc. So it's nice to be able to switch it out of the signal patch when you don't want this. Alternatively you could use a GCX or something for this, but that's quite a lot of complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 The G-string works fine. I've used it with a 5150II, XXX, Krank Rev1, & ADA MP-1 and it works perfectly with no issues. Those are all notoriously noisy amps!!! G-String is only $225 brand new!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IcedEarthian Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 ProRackG 4 sale -- mint cond - see sig pm sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I know what a Decimator is/does, I have one.But spending $450 just to get rid of "hiss" is {censored}ing fail. Sorry. The Prorack is an intregal part of alot of people's rigs myself included.You should find out what benefits a good gate can have for your sound before you bash it honestly.The Prorack G is in a Class all it's own. Maybe you;ve only had experience with the gating cababilities of past units? Do you play live? More importantly, do you use a input boost for your main distorted rhythm sound? If you answered yes to either of those questions you would easily understand the importance of this piece of gear. It adds a great professional touch to your sound. I can't stand listen to the guys that have a ton of noise and feedback everytime they roll their volume knob up.Stylistically, a gate can make sense as well as metal guys always want their palm mutes to be tight and abrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 One key advantage to the pedal is that you have the ability to switch it on or off easily (via your foot). This comes in handy if you like to clean up with the volume knob. The Decimator is fantastic until you lower your guitar volume... then you run the risk of your notes dying off prematurely etc. So it's nice to be able to switch it out of the signal patch when you don't want this. Alternatively you could use a GCX or something for this, but that's quite a lot of complexity. I agree except for the part about the GCX being alot of complexity. It's purpose is actually the opposite and it does it's job well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glenecho Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 I agree except for the part about the GCX being alot of complexity. It's purpose is actually the opposite and it does it's job well. The only complicated thing about the GCX is buying/building all the cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted January 2, 2009 Members Share Posted January 2, 2009 The only complicated thing about the GCX is buying/building all the cables. Yup that can be a real pain but I've always said that racks are not for the faint of heart. Alot of work can go into making a guitar rig work correctly and efficiently unfortunatley:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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