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This endless flame - new song sketch


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"carry all your wrongs" is the one


That phrase makes perfect sense to me. It sounds great to me. The phrase "to right these wrongs" works. So why not here as well. I think you've got it.

 

 

the problem was the song is full of perfect rhymes...

 

but on this line wrongS is rhyming with long

 

can i just drop the S on wrongs..... or does that make no sense?

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the problem was the song is full of perfect rhymes...


but on this line wrongS is rhyming with long


can i just drop the S on wrongs..... or does that make no sense?

 

 

Rules are meant to be broken. There is nothing wrongs with that...

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One other idea

 

you tell me nothings changing

how the water isnt rising in the sea

how theres nothing more beautiful than anger

how theres nothing more beautiful then me

 

how d'you feel about changing anger to failure

 

hinting at that they could be calling me a failure?

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I reread the full lyric then listened again. I think the comment (re: wongs) was made more for how it looks than any sort of aural issue. And... as a matter of fact, there's a school of thought that suggests imperfect rhymes, used in strategic places, further the meaning. I can't think of a more appropriate place the talking abut letting the wind take away wrongs.

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Anger has a evolutionary feel. Failure feels full stop. I like anger. It's a transitory emotion and one we can learn from. So is failure, but it feels less so in this usage. I like anger, or confusion, or some other less final sounding state.

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Listening to it again, I don't think the "s" on "wrongs" sticks out all that much.

 

I think what prompted me in that direction was two things:

 

1) The "r" sound is not an easy one to sing, and you've got three of them (carry/your/wrongs), and two of them are mashed up together. But that can be solved by careful diction.

 

2) I like the idea of the wind carrying away the feelings this persons has, whatever they may be, but I'm not in love with "carry all your wrongs." I just think it's an inexact way of saying what you mean.

 

I don't know if this is any better. It's certainly more on the nose (which may make it worse), but it's a suggestion. (I think it's also more direct, more visceral, and less conceptual, which is always good.)

 

Find a place to lose your burdens

youve been bearing them for years

let this open space surround you

let the wind blow away your tears.

 

Just a thought. I'm no longer feeling that wrongs is wrong, so it's okay as is, IMO.:wave:

 

LCK

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I like 'wrongs'

The only thing I don't care for is the last line of the chorus

to turn to smoke this endless flame

The imagery is lovely and it is a neat way to describe putting a fire out, but the wording is sort of tongue twistery. Ultimately, for me anyway, it takes away from the beauty of the song. I'd rather see something more straight forward.

of putting out this endless flame
to extinguish this endless flame
to satisfy this endless flame

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I like 'wrongs'


The only thing I don't care for is the last line of the chorus


to turn to smoke this endless flame


The imagery is lovely and it is a neat way to describe putting a fire out, but the wording is sort of tongue twistery. Ultimately, for me anyway, it takes away from the beauty of the song. I'd rather see something more straight forward.


of putting out this endless flame

to extinguish this endless flame

to satisfy this endless flame



Scroll back through the thread and you'll see a similar (though not nearly as in depth) comment from me, but it didn't bother me as much this time around. :idk:

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I really like it. Great potential.


The extended C chord that starts the chorus seemed too simplistic with just a guitar but I'm sure you have some layering in mind there.


"Turn to smoke this endless flame" also struck me as being a little akward, expecially compared to the rest of the lyrics. I like "this endless flame" so if there is an issue, it i with the first part.


I'm sure this will be a doozy when you are done with it.

 

 

 

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I've just listened to this for the 1st time. I think most bases have been covered by comments, but there's one aspect that I think needs a tweak.

The way you sing the line, 'and turn to smoke this endless flame'. - because the word 'this' runs immediately after the word 'smoke', 'smoke' can be construed as a verb instead of a noun. Obviously you're not smoking.
If you insert a pause, it would sound better to my ears.
'and turn to smoke // this endless flame'.

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