Members shortchord Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 A tenor sax solo would work really well in this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 A tenor sax solo would work really well in this song. Ask Ed if he's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shortchord Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Ed says, "sure thing man. Just tell me where and when." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldgitplayer Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Very, very nice.I really like "wrought with raw emotion." (Sorry OGP.)LCK I think it's a great line as a written line, but it just doesn't work that well when sung. Given that we are discussing an aural medium, I think it's important that the sounds communicate the meaning without the written word being available to the listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I think it's a great line as a written line, but it just doesn't work that well when sung. Given that we are discussing an aural medium, I think it's important that the sounds communicate the meaning without the written word being available to the listener. I agree. Yet sometimes a line is so good, screw the listener (meaning don't change it). Let him figure it out what's being sung on his own, or let him get a copy of the lyric online or something. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I agree. Yet sometimes a line is so good, screw the listener (meaning don't change it). Let him figure it out what's being sung on his own, or let him get a copy of the lyric online or something.LCK That was pretty much Nirvana's theory. Except they didn't need a great line to apply it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Ed says, "sure thing man. Just tell me where and when."' What part are you hearing sax solo on? I was thinking second half of the solo section... so guitar goes around 2 times, then sax 2 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 OK... I fleshed out the ending. Less effects, MORE VOCALS! Let me know if this is working. Note: Still have done nothing with the main vocals... I'm waiting to see who wins the LCK/oldguitarplayer showdown. :poke: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11494953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 OK... I fleshed out the ending. Less effects, MORE VOCALS! Let me know if this is working. Note: Still have done nothing with the main vocals... I'm waiting to see who wins the LCK/oldguitarplayer showdown. :poke: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11494953 Definitely working. Sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I actually like the earlier version more. Gets too thick now. BTW, I don't know how you'd think you might regret this. I'd consider this as is one of the best songs/productions in my catalog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Add a Rhodes and change the reversed lead to atmospheric synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I actually like the earlier version more. Gets too thick now.BTW, I don't know how you'd think you might regret this. I'd consider this as is one of the best songs/productions in my catalog. Well, I was kind of rushing through it last night just to get it done (never a good idea). I bounced it down and didn't even listen to it... Usually I like to give it the ol' drive around the block treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well, I was kind of rushing through it last night just to get it done (never a good idea). I bounced it down and didn't even listen to it... Usually I like to give it the ol' drive around the block treatment. I hear you. I tend to drive mine around the block, take it to the movies, go out for a latenight snack, screw around in the backseat... and then finally I might be a third of the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Absolutely love this dude! Just a production thing.... once again it feels like the drums are kinda getting away from you.... im starting to wonder if you have your buffer set too high and its causing latency.... everything just feels a little out with the drums...im sure its not you cool cool song man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 also gotta agree with os..... the version before this last one "sounds" better...the new one is a little "too much"..... i thought you were tired of that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Absolutely love this dude!Just a production thing.... once again it feels like the drums are kinda getting away from you.... im starting to wonder if you have your buffer set too high and its causing latency.... everything just feels a little out with the drums...im sure its not youcool cool song man Hmmm... what should my buffer be set at? I'm listening now just isolating each instrument against the drums to try and find the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oswlek Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Absolutely love this dude!Just a production thing.... once again it feels like the drums are kinda getting away from you.... im starting to wonder if you have your buffer set too high and its causing latency.... everything just feels a little out with the drums...im sure its not youcool cool song man I thought it was just me, but I had the same impression about the drums. It really stands out on the snare fill in the middle of the solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 also gotta agree with os Justin - update your sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I thought it was just me, but I had the same impression about the drums. It really stands out on the snare fill in the middle of the solo. Yeah, the fills are terrible. I haven't had a chance to really pay attention to them yet. I suspect its more than just the fills though... I'm just having a hard time hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hmmm... what should my buffer be set at? I'm listening now just isolating each instrument against the drums to try and find the problem. in setup>playback engine.... you should have it set as low as possible to avoid latency.... i cant get mine lower than 256 without it cracking up but im running an old bog standard pc when it comes to mixing then whack it up as high as you like... using plug ins and things with a low buffer may work the computer hard (which is why its fine when tracking) the only reason i say it "may" be this is... i assume its just the drums that are midi (addictive drums) so most probably perfectly in time.... you then play along to it whilst recording and although it sounds fine in the cans... its could be being recorded slightly out of time due to the latency if its not this... then SORT YOUR TIMING OUT :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Yeah, the fills are terrible. I haven't had a chance to really pay attention to them yet. I suspect its more than just the fills though... I'm just having a hard time hearing it. ha... maybe its just me.... i find the drums pretty much out for the whole song! im not saying everything needs to be perfect...it needs to have some feeling...but it feels a little out at all times im sure if you look at the grid on protools you will see that the other instruments you have recorded are not hitting the lines of the grid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 OK... I'm at: H/W Buffer Size: 128 Smples Host Processors: 4 Processors CPU Usage Limit: 90% Drums are Addictive Drums... maybe it's me? Wouldn't be surprised... my timing has always been horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 OK... I'm at:H/W Buffer Size: 128 SmplesHost Processors: 4 ProcessorsCPU Usage Limit: 90%Drums are Addictive Drums... maybe it's me? Wouldn't be surprised... my timing has always been horrendous. hmmm at 128 i doubt it would cause noticable latency its probably just me.... no one else has mentioned it so i wouldnt worry about it the drums just kinda feel slightly behind the rest of the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 hmmm at 128 i doubt it would cause noticable latencyits probably just me.... no one else has mentioned it so i wouldnt worry about itthe drums just kinda feel slightly behind the rest of the track? All the way through or in spots? I doubt it's just you... I remember you calling it out on Coffee. I didn't hear it at first. Now, if I listen back to that version, it is so apparent I almost want to give up music because I didn't notice it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 All the way through or in spots? I doubt it's just you... I remember you calling it out on Coffee. I didn't hear it at first. Now, if I listen back to that version, it is so apparent I almost want to give up music because I didn't notice it before. its pretty much all the way through....hence why i thought it may be a buffer problem if you solo drums and bass.... do the bass hits sound like they are locking with the kick and snare?...... then try guitar and drums.... keys and drums.... see if anything sounds out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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