Members pureanalog Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Shouldn't the SLASH AFD100 be a 1959T based amp??? JCM800??? could it have been a 4 holer jcm800s?? where they even 1959Ts in production under the JCM800 product series name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 i dont get it, i alraedy have a slash marshal...why the hell did they make another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Turner Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yes, the JCM 800 1959 is a SLP in a JCM 800 casing. I they also made the 50 watt version (1987) and a 50 watt bass version (1986). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Turner Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 i dont get it, i alraedy have a slash marshal...why the hell did they make another one? It's supposed to be like the one he used to record AFD with. I think it's supposed to be more of a ground up model. The first Slash sig amp was just a repackaged Jubilee. This one looks like it might be more customized for Slash. Randall made a very short run of Slash signature amps. I've heard one in person, killer sounding amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Randall made a very short run of Slash signature amps. I've heard one in person, killer sounding amp. Never heard of this. Info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 the sir caswell amp? How the {censored} did they build that from the ground up when the thing disappeared 20 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electrikon Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Never saw the point in artist signature gear. I don't want Erlic Clapton's guitar or Splash's map. I don't want Ass Frehley's guitar or Kerry King's JCM 800. May Garry Rossington reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbuckner Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Never heard of this. Info? The Randall Slash amps were called BMF. They were produced right before the Marshall Slash was made, they were very short lived. I've played a 50 watt head, and it was killer. Basically a two channel Marshall-style head, if I remember it had a bias switch for 6L6s or EL34s. Sorry but it's been a couple years since I played one. I remember it sounding very creamy, almost to much bass on the dirty side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drewl Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 Isn't there a Rossington series guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted January 18, 2010 Members Share Posted January 18, 2010 i dont know, but he wears his moms shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Caswell added a gain stage to the preamp and a master volume so in essence it's a modded JCM-800 as that's the main difference between the two circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Didn't we already have a thread about this yesterday? It was a modded Trem, not an 800. Slah later toured with the Jub and the 800 with 6550s for illusion amright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Didn't we already have a thread about this yesterday?It was a modded Trem, not an 800.Slah later toured with the Jub and the 800 with 6550s for illusionamright? You're right but the circuit (1959) with a master volume added becomes a JCM-800 essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 ahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NilByMouth Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Never saw the point in artist signature gear. I don't want Erlic Clapton's guitar or Splash's map. I don't want Ass Frehley's guitar or Kerry King's JCM 800. May Garry Rossington reign. dude FOR REAL! artist stuff....joke....all about the $$$$ i aint no sucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 yes,Super lead tremolo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 i dont know, ill tell you what, my {censored}ing jubliee Slash is a {censored}ing kick ass amp. I dont give a {censored} if CC devilles name was on it, it is the best marshall i have ever played outside of a Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 i dont know, ill tell you what, my {censored}ing jubliee Slash is a {censored}ing kick ass amp. I dont give a {censored} if CC devilles name was on it, it is the best marshall i have ever played outside of a Cameron. Those are indeed killer amps. As you point out a properly modded JCM-800 or JMP/Plexi is sort of the "Grail" of marshalls but the Jubilee is probably the best production amp they ever put out if you are going to leave it bone stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 http://www.slashsworld.com/equipment/the-appetite-amp-story/sweet-marshall-o%E2%80%99-mine-part-2-the-breakthrough-case-closed/ Slash & Marshall are telling whoppers. He used an 800 2203 for clean tones on AFD, but the Caswell 1959T for everything else, also it's the - Caswell amp he stole and got busted with, not the 800 because A[ they wouldn't sell it to him, & B] In 86' he didn't have anything else worth a {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 You're right but the circuit (1959) with a master volume added becomes a JCM-800 essentially. Actually... Oh look, a 1959 model JCM800 And a 2204 Master Volume JMP JCM800 is really mostly esthetic differences (yes, the circuits changed over the years, but not so specifically during the JMP to JCM transition). Just happens that JCM800 corresponds to the era where MV amps took over. So really, a JCM800 or a JMP... doesn't matter. Point is, make me a killer sounding amp, but enough with Slash's special amp nonsense If anything, I like his tone on Illusion better than on AFD, I may even like the toanz with Velvet Revolver better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members highhorse Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Charveldan for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members highhorse Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Velvet Revolvers tone is {censored}ing amazing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orbis_Mortis Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Velvet Revolvers tone is {censored}ing amazing though That would be Slash Sigs, Jubilees, and the Vintage Moderns mixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Actually... Oh look, a 1959 model JCM800 And a 2204 Master Volume JMP JCM800 is really mostly esthetic differences (yes, the circuits changed over the years, but not so specifically during the JMP to JCM transition). Just happens that JCM800 corresponds to the era where MV amps took over. So really, a JCM800 or a JMP... doesn't matter. Point is, make me a killer sounding amp, but enough with Slash's special amp nonsense If anything, I like his tone on Illusion better than on AFD, I may even like the toanz with Velvet Revolver better. The bold part isn't really right. While you could buy NMV (1959) JCM-800's as special run amps later but from the mid 70's till '81 IIRC they were the 2203/2204 circuit but still called JMP's. Then they jumped the two inputs and started calling them the JCM-800. My point was that after Caswell modded the old JMP it was essentially a 2203 so you can call it whatever you want (which is what I believe you were getting at) however, Marshall isn't being entirely clear on what went on. IMO, they don't want people to latch on to the fact that it was a modded amp, not a relatively stock 2203 Slash used. My JMP is still a "JMP" even though it's mechanically more like a JCM-800 2203 now with the mods Zach did to it. At least that's what I call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele62 Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 In 86' he didn't have anything else worth a {censored}. Interesting, didn't know there was a follow up. And yes, there's some serious fibs going on. Why? Well, obviously because Marshall is currently producing the JCM800 - all they have to do is apply some tweaks to the current circuit, add some fancy branding and sell it at double the price. Restarting production on a brand new amp would cost much more, making the profits smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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