Members eudaimonia02912 Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I would submit maybe their time would be better used ya know, teaching engrrish and maths so they could pass TACS test and not flunk out in 9th/10th grade. But I guess everyone has their priorities! Don't graduate HS and get a job- we'll just teach you how to {censored} better so you can keep leaching off the few kids that do so they can support your trailer park ass. Might it be possible to teach kids, at an appropriate age, the truth about human sexuality and also teach them math, science, and language skills? I mean, they seem to be able to do that in Europe, so I suppose we Americans could pull it off if we tried. Or maybe you just think Americans are inferior to Swedes.Also, I bet if you got an independent ranking of the quality of sex ed education kids get in school, and then made a graph correlating that with the median income of households in various school districts, you'll find that high income places have good sex ed and lower income places have bad sex ed (like abstinence-only sex ed). I bet you'd also find that kids that get the good sex ed go on tend to go on to make more money than those that don't. I am not asserting causality, here, but only correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terminus Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 ^ Yeah, sex ed only takes up a few biology lessons, it doesn't need to replace anything else on the curriculum. Sweden is most definelty superior though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THEE HAMMER Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 NO WAY IN HELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Might it be possible to teach kids, at an appropriate age, the truth about human sexuality and also teach them math, science, and language skills? I mean, they seem to be able to do that in Europe, so I suppose we Americans could pull it off if we tried. Or maybe you just think Americans are inferior to Swedes.Also, I bet if you got an independent ranking of the quality of sex ed education kids get in school, and then made a graph correlating that with the median income of households in various school districts, you'll find that high income places have good sex ed and lower income places have bad sex ed (like abstinence-only sex ed). I bet you'd also find that kids that get the good sex ed go on tend to go on to make more money than those that don't. I am not asserting causality, here, but only correlation. This. I would add that during the 1990s, when sex ed became more comprehensive and began to include an emphasis on contraception, teen pregnancy rates dropped. In the mid-aughts, when abstinence-only sex ed had become more common, they started to rise again. Basically, teen sex happens whether you talk about it or not. So, better to get the facts out there than to pretend if you don't that it'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chippy Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I had to do this in High School. Discovery of "immoral" acts OUTSIDE school hours resulted in expulsion. I would've raped a goat just to get out of that hellhole. Places like PCC should be recognized as the cults they are & shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Might it be possible to teach kids, at an appropriate age, the truth about human sexuality and also teach them math, science, and language skills? I mean, they seem to be able to do that in Europe, so I suppose we Americans could pull it off if we tried. Or maybe you just think Americans are inferior to Swedes. Also, I bet if you got an independent ranking of the quality of sex ed education kids get in school, and then made a graph correlating that with the median income of households in various school districts, you'll find that high income places have good sex ed and lower income places have bad sex ed (like abstinence-only sex ed). I bet you'd also find that kids that get the good sex ed go on tend to go on to make more money than those that don't. I am not asserting causality, here, but only correlation. I of course overstated just for emphasis- although I look at the dropout rates in Houston and just *sigh* when it seems maths and grammars and sciences looking at testing scores. I dunno, I look at it kinda like religion- people bitch and whine when that's introduced into the classroom, but hey it's the teacher's/school's right to tell kids whom, how and when to {censored}? Interesting... :cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eudaimonia02912 Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 This. I would add that during the 1990s, when sex ed became more comprehensive and began to include an emphasis on contraception, teen pregnancy rates dropped. In the mid-aughts, when abstinence-only sex ed had become more common, they started to rise again. Basically, teen sex happens whether you talk about it or not. So, better to get the facts out there than to pretend if you don't that it'll go away. I got my sex ed in the 90s, and the norm in my age group was "Use a condom, every time, period. Cap it unless you're married." Thanks, sex ed! But my school district wasn't much concerned about whether this would make Jesus squeamish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eudaimonia02912 Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I of course overstated just for emphasis- although I look at the dropout rates in Houston and just *sigh* when it seems maths and grammars and sciences looking at testing scores. I dunno, I look at it kinda like religion- people bitch and whine when that's introduced into the classroom, but hey it's the teacher's/school's right to tell kids whom, how and when to {censored}? Interesting... :cop: No, perhaps it's the kids' right to be told the truth about human sexuality rather than to be indoctrinated by their ignorant parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 No, perhaps it's the kids' right to be told the truth about human sexuality rather than to be indoctrinated by their ignorant parents.Well according to you. That doesn't mean it's right. So no, YOU!There's also a pretty distinct gap between being sexually responsible and a total full-on prude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I of course overstated just for emphasis- although I look at the dropout rates in Houston and just *sigh* when it seems maths and grammars and sciences looking at testing scores. I dunno, I look at it kinda like religion- people bitch and whine when that's introduced into the classroom, but hey it's the teacher's/school's right to tell kids whom, how and when to {censored}? Interesting... :cop: I would say that unlike religion, there is a direct cost to NOT teaching comprehensive sex ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chippy Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 BTW - Can parents opt out of having their kids participate in parts of the curriculum they find distasteful? If it's a public school, the answer is almost always yes. You can use the "it's against my religion" card to great effect. An atheist chick I went to HS with used that to get out of some stupid bull{censored}. We all thought it was pretty funny & ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I would say that unlike religion, there is a direct cost to NOT teaching comprehensive sex ed.yeah, I mean thank god right? Lookit all the declining numbers of teen pregnancies and drop outs related to such, STD's dropping off the wayside and kids not getting into fights at lunch, arguing over bitches, eh? If I'm ever a parent, I'm not going to tell my kids not to have sex, but you knock a bitch up, it's Mickey D's and paying rent for your ass. :cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eudaimonia02912 Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Well according to you. That doesn't mean it's right. So no, YOU! There's also a pretty distinct gap between being sexually responsible and a total full-on prude. I am stating an opinion, but that doesn't mean it is just an opinion. I also think kids have a right not to be tortured for fun. That's an opinion, but it's not just an opinion. It might also be true.Children aren't their parent's property, and parent's rights over their children are not unlimited. Perhaps a child has a right to be taught the truth rather than to be indoctrinated. Perhaps children growing up in cults are having their rights violated by their parents. Etc. These are interesting questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eudaimonia02912 Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 yeah, I mean thank god right? Lookit all the declining numbers of teen pregnancies and drop outs related to such, STD's dropping off the wayside and kids not getting into fights at lunch, arguing over bitches, eh? If I'm ever a parent, I'm not going to tell my kids not to have sex, but you knock a bitch up, it's Mickey D's and paying rent for your ass. :cop: I'm a parent. When my son gets old enough, I am going to tell him what sex is and how it works, what contraception is, etc. As for sex, I'll tell him never do anything without consent, to be careful, and to make sure to take himself and others seriously as people. With those caveats, I hope he and other teenagers of his generation enjoy themselves. With the right precautions, sex is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I'm a parent. When my son gets old enough, I am going to tell him what sex is and how it works, what contraception is, etc. As for sex, I'll tell him never do anything without consent, to be careful, and to make sure to take himself and others seriously as people. With those caveats, I hope he and other teenagers of his generation enjoy themselves. With the right precautions, sex is a wonderful thing.Definitely, no disagreements here! Just don't knock dat ho up... Gets 'spensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Just don't knock dat ho up... Gets 'spensive! I think this is a sentiment we can all get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I think this is a sentiment we can all get behind. I can pretty easily see how single moms/teens are welfare queens most of their lives. {censored}, people I know who have jobs can barely afford a kid or two at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I can pretty easily see how single moms/teens are welfare queens most of their lives. {censored}, people I know who have jobs can barely afford a kid or two at times. I've got one myself, and between my wife and I, we're doing pretty well - probably the lower edge of upper middle class - but, damn, that kid is pricy! Diapers and formula are bad enough, but daycare is where it REALLY hurts. If you don't have family who are willing to help out nearby, your choices are to pay out the ass for a center (where you don't have to take days off when the daycare provider is sick or on vacation, and you know the providers are being watched to prevent shenanigans), pay a little bit less out the ass for an in-home provider (where the controls aren't as tight, and you are beholden to their schedule), or quit your job. Fortunately, my employer is awesome, and allowed me to shift my schedule such that we can put the kid in part time while still working full time. Even so, we're paying almost a grand per month.And that doesn't even touch on the medical cost of just having the kid - that can easily be $20,000 or more! {censored}, I could have skipped the kid and just use half my pay for toilet paper, and I'd come out ahead monetarily. Good thing for him he's so cute ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yup. All good reasons to stay single/and/if/or married, sans kids! I hear that 599 GTB calling mah name from the Ferrari dealership instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JRBain Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 This. I somehow don't think Christ would have banned guitar. He was much more open minded than that. Not a bad summary, really. All this is pretty symptomatic of the wonderful conformity device that religion when subverted can/has been... Whether it's the 14th century, the 16th century or today, it's all pretty much the same stuff.... Richard the Lionheart had an excellent conscription device in religion for his attempted conquest of the holy land, the ducking stool (if I remember correctly) went from being used to punish nagging wives to being a device by which it was ascertained whether or not people were guilty of witchcraft (which of course is a topic in this regard by itself), and the folk who blamed Darwin for social ills came up with what we now call 'creationism' (certainly as a significant modern movement, so far as I know, anyway), which is basically the same as this neo-puritan nonsense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pamackie Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yup. All good reasons to stay single/and/if/or married, sans kids! I hear that 599 GTB calling mah name from the Ferrari dealership instead... As someone whose wife is about 4 months, you're frightening me, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members White_Van Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 I knocked a ho up once. I prayed really hard, and the kid came out looking like a reptile. So I threw it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrokenFighter Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 Schools, churches, and people like this give Christians (and God/Jesus) a bad name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squinty Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 Found out this interesting tidbit on "Strictest Colleges" - here's a gem from this "Christian" college: Pensacola students are not allowed to wear frayed jeans or beltless pants. Pornography, electric guitars and off-campus food are other examples of campus contraband. Gambling and "indirect horseplay" are forbidden; interestingly, so is extra studying for exams. WTF? Do young people in this country really want to subject themselves to such nonsense? I love that extra studying for exams is also forbidden I can't imagine anyone here going to this hellhole. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/14/the-strictest-colleges-ph_n_645600.html#s113617 Ahhh Pornography and Electric guitars.... The way of the Devil!!!!{censored} I'm going to hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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